--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta <krneta.zo...@...> wrote:

> What you are promoting here is certain belief system.
> 
> My point was that there is no "secular meditation" – it means that there is
> no meditation WITHOUT certain belief system whether you believe in Mickey
> Mouse or God or nothing at all.
>

I believe you are confused about the meaning of the word secular:

1 a: of or relating to the worldly or temporal <secular concerns> b: not 
overtly or specifically religious <secular music> c: not ecclesiastical or 
clerical <secular courts> <secular landowners>

No human exists without any beliefs about the world.  We do not all share 
beliefs in religious concepts like God or life after death, or a scripture 
based meaning of life.

I was not promoting a belief system.  I was sharing my own personal conclusions 
about my meditation experiences.  My conclusions about them are secular and not 
religious in nature.




>
> >
> > It heightens awareness of an aspect of our mind. I don't believe that it
> > heightens awareness itself or our capacity to be aware of anything else more
> > or better. The purpose for me is that it is enjoyable. No higher state
> > needed. That said it is way down on my list of things I want to do with my
> > day so I haven't meditated in a long time. But I enjoy meditation without
> > the belief's attached to it or the idea that I am experiencing a "higher"
> > state of mind.
> > That was my original point. You can enjoy meditaiton without the context of
> > religious beliefs. Without assuming the traditional belief structure it
> > becomes an experiment without an assumed conclusion. I don't assume any
> > benifits other than the enjoyment of the experience itself. This approach
> > isn't for everyone, but it works for me.
> >
> 
> 
> What you are promoting here is certain belief system.
> 
> My point was that there is no "secular meditation" – it means that there is
> no meditation WITHOUT certain belief system whether you believe in Mickey
> Mouse or God or nothing at all.
>


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