--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" <shukr...@...> wrote: > > This is just willful stupidity and closedmindedness. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > I am SO bored with this topic I can't chime > > in with much more than a rant. I don't see > > how anyone with an ounce of integrity can > > *possibly* be arguing that the TMO does not > > teach religiously-based ideas. > > > > But I do understand WHY people don't have > > that ounce of integrity. They've been taught > > that when it comes to fundamental points of > > TM dogma that the ONLY thing that matters is > > not only following them but defending them. > > > > And one of the strongest and MOST drummed- > > into-people's-heads pieces of dogma during > > their TM instruction is "TM Is Not A Religion." > > It's said in every Introductory Lecture, > > *whether the subject comes up on its own or > > not*, it's said during each night of the three > > nights of checking, *whether the subject comes > > up on its own or not*, and it's said pretty > > much every time after that that the subject > > of religion comes up. For years. Ad absurdum. > > > > This is arguably **THE** most fundamental piece > > of TM dogma, probably repeated more often than > > "Thou shalt not strain on the mantra." > > > > And after all that much repetition, people just > > lose all sense of perspective about it. The sub- > > ject comes up, and they become mindless evangel- > > ists for the TM Is Not A Religion Religion. > > > > They'll say ANYTHING rather than admit what > > MOST of them know to be the truth, that OF > > COURSE all of the TM dogma is based on Hindu > > dogma. They'll lie, they'll deny, they'll come > > with up excuses, they'll obfuscate, they'll > > attempt to distract, they'll do ANYTHING > > rather than violate this First Commandment. > > > > And personally I'm getting a little tired of it. > > There seems to me to be NO QUESTION that > > teaching TM *as it is taught now* in American > > school systems violates the Constitution. TM > > Teachers are just not CAPABLE of teaching > > the basic technique 1) without a religious puja, > > and 2) without all of the directly-derived-from- > > Hinduism "explanations" of what is "really" > > happening when you meditate during the three > > nights of checking, and afterwards. > > > > The ONLY way to keep this essentially religious > > dogma from being taught in schools is to not > > allow it to be taught there in the first place. > > We simply cannot TRUST TM Teachers to "leave out" > > the parts of the dogma that are directly derived > > from Hindu thought when they present the three > > nights of checking, let alone afterwards, as they > > try to suck these students into "Advanced Tech- > > niques" and the Siddhis. And *everyone* here > > knows that that's exactly what they will do. > > > > It is EXACTLY the same situation that caused > > Thomas Jefferson to write one of his most remem- > > bered quotes, the one that graces the Jefferson > > Memorial in Washington. This quote was written > > in a letter to a friend discussing an attempt > > by Christians to teach *their* dogma in a school > > system. In that particular case, *they* promised > > "not to teach anything explicitly religious" > > either, and NO ONE BELIEVED THEM. > > > > NO ONE SHOULD BELIEVE THE TMO EITHER. > > > > Instead, believe Thomas Jefferson. He had the > > right idea: > > > > "I have sworn upon the altar of God > > eternal hostility against every from > > of tyranny over the mind of man." > > > > Jefferson was talking about *preventing* the teach- > > ing of religion in schools in America. The principle > > still stands. It stands in the case of Christianity, > > and it stands in the case of the TM Is Not A > > Religion Religion. > > > > IMO, of course...
Even a broken clock is right twice a day, or, how about this one, every now and then even a blind squirrel with find a nut! Right on Turq, (don't know about the Jefferson stuff).
