--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <babajii...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" <yifuxero@> wrote:
> >
> > ---.Good; but as Charlie Lutes once said in jest, he asks the question as a 
> > challenge to those touting the benefits of "transcending" and at the same 
> > time placing what they're talking about in the global context of things.
> >  He asked [to parapharase]  "by "transcending"....do you mean that your 
> > physical body dissolved into White Light and vanished from sight".
> > (snip)
> No, I don't mean that...that's just another thought...
> Just quietly come back to the mantra, even when you think that: 'Oh WoW! I 
> must be transcending now...my body just disappeared and I'm just this white 
> light, oh no, I'm vanished from sight.
> That's just the ego wanting to pull you back from the state of innocence.
> R.G.

I don't know if 'disappear' is the right word.  Here's is an account of St. 
John in Revelation experiencing conscious transcending:

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of 
a trumpet, (hearing OM during meditation).

And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven 
golden candlesticks; (The chakras).

And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, 
clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden 
girdle. (Astral body)

His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes 
were as a flame of fire;
And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his 
voice as the sound of many waters. (Sounds of the tattvas, or subltle elements)

And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp 
two-edged sword: (The two petaled third eye)

 and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
And when I saw him, ('him' is his higher astral body) I fell at his feet as 
dead. (The physical body)


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