--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <wg...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote:
> >
> > Robert wrote:
> > > It is a delicate process to transcend thought...that is the reason for 
> > > the checking, etc...
> > > Because unless we have the experience of transcending thought, then we 
> > > can think that repeating a mantra, or chanting a mantra, is going to get 
> > > you there...but then you have missed the point.
> > > The mantra starts out like 'any other thought', but is used as a vehicle 
> > > to transcend, so it begins the process of noticing something about the 
> > > thinking process, the act of experiencing more subltle levels of 
> > > thinking, and then transcending the thinking process itself.
> > > All of this is very subtle and delicate, which is why it has been so 
> > > misunderstood...
> > > It's not like using a hammer to pound a nail...which would be more akin 
> > > to the techniques of western thinking...politically speaking.
> > > R.G.
> > The process in other traditions is called "samadhi."  "Transcending 
> > thought" is just a "westernization" of the same thing avoiding the 
> > Sanskrit term.  TM is certainly not unique in producing samadhi.  ;-)
> 

Isn't that more specifically /asaMprajñaata-samaadhi/?

vitarka-vicaara-aananda-asmitaa-anugamaat saMprajñaataH

*viraama-pratyaya-abhyaasa-puurvaH saMskaara-sheSo 'nyaH*

('nyaH = anyaH = the other = not-saMprajñaataH =
 a-saMprajñaataH samaadhiH)

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