--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <wg...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > > > > Robert wrote: > > > It is a delicate process to transcend thought...that is the reason for > > > the checking, etc... > > > Because unless we have the experience of transcending thought, then we > > > can think that repeating a mantra, or chanting a mantra, is going to get > > > you there...but then you have missed the point. > > > The mantra starts out like 'any other thought', but is used as a vehicle > > > to transcend, so it begins the process of noticing something about the > > > thinking process, the act of experiencing more subltle levels of > > > thinking, and then transcending the thinking process itself. > > > All of this is very subtle and delicate, which is why it has been so > > > misunderstood... > > > It's not like using a hammer to pound a nail...which would be more akin > > > to the techniques of western thinking...politically speaking. > > > R.G. > > The process in other traditions is called "samadhi." "Transcending > > thought" is just a "westernization" of the same thing avoiding the > > Sanskrit term. TM is certainly not unique in producing samadhi. ;-) >
Isn't that more specifically /asaMprajñaata-samaadhi/? vitarka-vicaara-aananda-asmitaa-anugamaat saMprajñaataH *viraama-pratyaya-abhyaasa-puurvaH saMskaara-sheSo 'nyaH* ('nyaH = anyaH = the other = not-saMprajñaataH = a-saMprajñaataH samaadhiH)