--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote: > > > On Apr 27, 2009, at 11:11 AM, sparaig wrote: > > >> What seems to have gone mostly unnoticed, probably largely due to the > >> success with which TM spin pulls wool over eyes, is that legitimate > >> neuroscientists are on to the coherence boondoggle. For many years > >> people simply accepted the assertion that alpha coherence during TM > >> was something significant. It sure sounded important, so it must be! > >> It turns out, in regards to "higher", more integrated states of > >> consciousness, alpha coherence in the range seen in long-term TMers > >> is still within the range of coherence seen in Joe or Jane non- > >> meditator off the street! So there's really no coherence worth noting > >> so far with TM--although other advanced meditators do show different > >> types of coherence which are remarkable in some ways. In general > >> coherence as a measurement of phaselocking in brainwaves is now an > >> obsolete measurement as better methods to measure synchrony have come > >> to the fore. > >> > > > > Actually, according to Fred Travis' latest published research, that > > is NOT > > the case: there is a continuum of frontal alpha coherence seen in > > people > > which happens to correlate nicely with > > > > 1) their tendency to describe their "self" in certain ways; > > Well of course one would expect they'd describe themselves as they've > been conditioned to over decades.
Sure, but the tendency appears to fall outside the TMers as well. Your champion atheletes apparently tend to be less "object oriented" than the non-champion athletes. Likewise with the most successful managers. > > > 2) their overall success in their chosen field; > > 3) AND the length of time they've spent doing TM. > > So this touches on what we've talked about here before: self > actualization vs. self realization. Finding Dharma vs. "finding" > Self. Alpha emitters become alpha males (and females presumably). > Er, yeah. > > > > Highly successful managers and champion athletes show much the same > > frontal > > alpha EEG coherence as long term TMers, but NOT as much as those > > reporting > > consitent witnessing 24/7 for at least a year. > > Of course it would probably be easy to cherry-pick almost any group > since alpha coherence is not only common, it's frequent in most humans! > CHerry picking as in splitting atheletes into non-world champions/champions you mean? By defintion, this kind of study cherry picks people and puts them into different categories. L.
