On Apr 27, 2009, at 3:55 PM, sparaig wrote:
Well of course one would expect they'd describe themselves as they've
been conditioned to over decades.
Sure, but the tendency appears to fall outside the TMers as well.
Your champion
atheletes apparently tend to be less "object oriented" than the non-
champion
athletes. Likewise with the most successful managers.
One would expect, given the reality of neuroplasticity, that people
with similar mental styles may have similar EEG traits, for example
since alpha is associated with nonvisual thinking, really all you'd
need to have is a nonvisual thinking style, and that would seem rather
common and also rather unremarkable. Another way to get people to
produce impressive, regular high amplitude alpha bursts is to get
subjects to intend to hear a faint sound. And it doesn't have to be a
mantra. Just transitioning from visual objects to phonic objects
(whatever they are) causes an increase in alpha. Given these facts,
your going to have to design controls that show the magical TM mantra
does anything different. But I think the science would already show
there is really no difference.
As a great expert on EEG once said "Concluding anything about alpha is
perilous."
2) their overall success in their chosen field;
3) AND the length of time they've spent doing TM.
So this touches on what we've talked about here before: self
actualization vs. self realization. Finding Dharma vs. "finding"
Self. Alpha emitters become alpha males (and females presumably).
Er, yeah.
Highly successful managers and champion athletes show much the same
frontal
alpha EEG coherence as long term TMers, but NOT as much as those
reporting
consitent witnessing 24/7 for at least a year.
Of course it would probably be easy to cherry-pick almost any group
since alpha coherence is not only common, it's frequent in most
humans!
CHerry picking as in splitting atheletes into non-world champions/
champions
you mean? By defintion, this kind of study cherry picks people and
puts them
into different categories.
No, finding a certain segment of humanity that produces the same
artifacts.