--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchy...@...> wrote:
>
> Hey that's great, Rick. Thanks for posting good news about women's issues. I 
> always liked Carter for his commitment to public service, especially his work 
> with Habitat for Humanity. His willingness to stand on principle, even this 
> late in life, shows he is a man of integrity. It's amazing, how religion, the 
> supposed fountain of love and kindness, breeds such bigotry and hatred toward 
> gays, people of color and women. 




How do you feel about Carter's stand against abortion, probably the strongest 
opponent of abortion of all 44 presidents?




> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Jimmy Carter Leaves Church Over Treatment of Women
> > 7/20/09
> > After more than 60 years together, Jimmy Carter has announced himself at
> > odds with the Southern Baptist Church -- and he's decided it's time they go
> > their separate ways. Via Feministing
> > <http://www.feministing.com/archives/016792.html>
> > <http://www.feministing.com/archives/016792.html> , the former president
> > called the decision "unavoidable" after church leaders prohibited women from
> > being ordained and insisted women be "subservient to their husbands." Said
> > Carter in an essay in The Age
> > <http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/losing-my-religion-for-equality-20090714-d
> > k0v.html?page=-1>
> > <http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/losing-my-religion-for-equality-20090714-d
> > k0v.html?page=-1> :
> > At its most repugnant, the belief that women must be subjugated to  the
> > wishes of men excuses slavery, violence, forced prostitution, genital
> > mutilation and national laws that omit rape as a crime. But it also costs
> > many  millions of girls and women control over their own bodies and lives,
> > and  continues to deny them fair access to education, health, employment and
> > influence within their own communities.
> > 
> > And, later:
> > The truth is that male religious leaders have had -- and still  have -- an
> > option to interpret holy teachings either to exalt or subjugate  women. They
> > have, for their own selfish ends, overwhelmingly chosen the  latter. Their
> > continuing choice provides the foundation or justification for  much of the
> > pervasive persecution and abuse of women throughout the world.  
> > After watching everyone from philandering politicians to Iran's president
> > taking a sudden look heavenwards when the roof starts to come down on them,
> > it's refreshing to see Carter calling out the role of religion in the
> > mistreatment of women. 
> > 
> > The question for Carter -- and for others who find themselves at odds with
> > leadership -- is, when a group you're deeply involved in starts to move away
> > from your own core beliefs, do you stay and try to change from within or, at
> > some point, do you have to look for the exit? Carter did give the former a
> > shot -- in recent years publicly criticizing and distancing himself from
> > church leadership, while staying involved with his church. Now, he's seeing
> > if absence might do what presence did not.
> >
>


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