--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > (Caveat: I'm not arguing that Hagelin's ideas > > > connecting theoretical physics with TM are correct, > > > only that Barry's ideas about Hagelin are > > > INcorrect, especially his puerile analogy with Dan > > > Brown.) > > > > All physicists would agree with Barry on that point. > > I'm pretty sure they would, at least working > physicists. The only ones who have any respect > for Hagelin probably appeared with him on the > "What the bleep..." film. :-) > > There is something that happens to supposed > scientists when they catch the "New Age disease" > or the "religion disease" or the "bhakti disease," > whatever you choose to call it. They become > believers in whatever their spiritual or occult > trip is, and science goes right out the window > EXCEPT as a mechanism for them to "get strokes" > from the religion or teacher they've become > enamored with. > > Judy wouldn't know about this. She never got any > closer to the TM movement than to dip a toe in > so she could say, "I've been there." But she never > *has* "been there." She never had what it took to > become a TM teacher, or to commit to trying to > spread TM. Above all, she doesn't understand the > fanatical desire to "please the teacher" that > people who *do* commit to such spiritual groups > feel. They will do the stupidest things on earth, > just to be "patted on the head" by the teacher. > > Hagelin is NOT a scientist. He stopped being one > many, many years ago. What he is is a religious > fanatic. And pretty much anyone who still *is* > a scientist can see what Hagelin has become. > > Like jr_esq, science and the "desire to find out" > no longer drive Hagelin. He is driven by the desire > to "prove" that the "vedic ideas" Maharishi gave to > him are "correct" or "true." So he attempts to "bend" > science to "fit" these ideas. > > It's a shitty fit. But he gets away with it because > the people in the audiences he speaks to are trying > just as hard as he is to do the same thing. Like jr, > they BELIEVE completely that the vedic seers "knew > it all," and that modern thinkers and modern science > are merely trying to "catch up." > > That's ridiculous, of course, but so are they. > Religious fanatics always are, whether it's > Christian fundamentalism or Hindu fundamentalism.
Barry, This guy speaks your language. Maybe he can be your next guru. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h1E3YJMKfA >
