--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anatol_zinc" <anatol_z...@...> wrote: > > excellent talk by Maharishi given in 1962, but here is my comment 2009: > it is hard to follow Maharishi's advice( last few paragraphs ) during > these extremely difficult times ; > and it seems it was hard for Maharishi to follow his own advice; > > this was given in 1962, so for a few decades, he did really well > > focusing only on positivity, it seemed to me, > > but then he started to call President Bush a rakshasa( a demon ); so > these are truly difficult times for everyone > > but the advice Maharishi gave is still excellent > > and wise to try ones best > >
******** That to which one gives one's attention grows stronger in one's life, therefore, speaking ill of someone makes the influence of evil stronger in one's life, which retards evolution. Maharishi's advice about speaking well of others (found throughout the Vedic literature: http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=10806621169&topic=7189 )is only an aid to the ignorant -- for an ignorant person, it's dangerous to spiritual growth to speak ill of others, because it necessitates bringing in that impurity from others and situating it in one's brain, in order to speak ill of others. But for MMY and other enlightened people, there is no danger of their minds becoming contaminated, since they are stationed in total awareness that cannot be contaminated or overcome by anything, so there is no need to avoid speaking ill of others because of a concern about impeding spiritual growth for themselves. What enlightened people say is just the voice of nature responding to the needs of the time -- the earth is terribly burdened now by wrongdoing, and MMY's harsh criticism is just the cry of nature to stop mucking things up. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote: > > > > From an audio (No 8) recorded in Hochgurgel in 1962 > > > > (Thanks to Jörg Schenk) > > > > > > Maharishi speaks about Karma > > > > Some selected points: > > > > Maharishi: Who is the doer (of the Karma)? The doer is the ego, > the > > mind. Although the senses perform the action, but the senses are not > the > > doer. The doer is the thinker within. So the thinker, as long as it is > > associated with the body, it is associated with the body. But the doer > is > > that thinker, that subtle body, that Jiva. If he casts away this > body, > > goes to the other body, he will be caught by that action in the other > body. > > Body doesn't matter. What matters is the doer and what he has done.... > > > > As I was saying, the vibrations (of the Karma) return from the wall, > from > > the sun, from millions of miles. There are galaxies in the world from > where > > the light takes millions of years to reach the earth. When the > vibrations > > reach so far and strike against that and then will be rebound and come > back, > > millions of years have passed already. So the effect of the Karma done > now > > is not received all at once. It keeps on being received from time to > time, > > for (?) all eternity. > > > > The effect in the vicinity of the doer is maximum, but the effect is > created > > throughout the universe, whatever little effect at far distances, but > it is > > created and all this effect has to come back.... > > > > Every second that we are producing some Karma, we are storing the > fruit of > > that Karma to be born for millions of years.... > > > > Thoughts are the seed of Karma, very powerful seed. The seed in its > seed > > status is very potent. If you have thoughts of injuring a man, you > have > > injured the whole creation, already injured in the subtle state.... > > > > Future after death depends on what a man has done throughout life. But > the > > next goal, where he will be born, mainly depends on the desire at the > time > > of death, the desire at the time of death.... > > > > Question: Is there a difference of a bad Karma done intentionally or > > unintentionally? > > > > Maharishi: Intentionally, because his attention was there, then the > effect > > will be more intensive. But the effect will be on the same line.... > > > > Question: If I have a bad son and have to beat him, is this bad Karma? > > > > Maharishi: It is the Karma of the son that brings him beating and it > is > > the Karma of the father that makes him sorry.... > > > > If I do some sin and in this room there is no one, I think nobody has > seen > > it. But it has been exposed to the whole universe. Everyone in the > universe > > knows it. And somehow that will be delivered to us back by all the > agencies > > in the universe, knowing or unknowing. > > > > You can't stop the evolution. If you commit sin in the room, then you > are > > creating sinful vibrations. And sinful vibrations means, wherever they > go > > they damage the evolution of that thing. > > > > Someone speaks ill of the other and plans damaging him, very > underknees > > plan, nothing on the surface, damaging the entire creation by his > mischief. > > Because the agency of thought is just vibration. That is why > scriptures > > forbid us speaking ill of others, or damaging someone or doing harm, > because > > apparently we seem to be harming him but eventually we have to be > harmed by > > our own doing of the harm to someone else. > > > > To save the doer the teaching is Don't do any bad thing to anyone. > Don't > > commit sin, go for virtue, help thy neighbour, so that thy maybe > helped. > > > > In India we have the proverb that if someone speaks ill of the other > he > > partakes his sin.... > > > > If you call someone a fool, then the vibrations of foolery have been > spread > > in the whole creation and that foolery will return back to you, from > all > > sides. > > > > Because man has that highly evolved nervous system. This great > > responsibility is on to man and not to animals. The responsibility of > good > > and bad deeds, sin and virtue, this is for man and not for animals. > Because > > man is in that position to understand how the Karma acts, how his > action > > influences the whole creation and then he is influenced back by the > same.... > > > > Try to do all good that you can, all your energy in doing good, but > don't > > put your energy in criticizing the bad of someone. It is a waste of > energy. > > Because, now when you are meditating, you are bringing that stable > state of > > bliss consciousness in your mind. That is sublimenting the state of > the > > mind. At this state, if you keep on bringing bad things talking > ill of > > others and thinking of sin done by others then you are > neutralizing the > > power that you are gaining from the absolute.... > > > > Nothing is more elevating than bringing the mind to the absolute being > and > > nothing is more damaging than talking something bad or reflecting > something > > sinful. Nothing is more damaging than this. Getting to the > transcendent is > > the direct way to heaven and talking ill of someone or thinking bad of > > someone or reflecting on the sin done by someone is a direct way to > hell. > > No greater crime can one commit than talking ill or thinking ill of > > something done by someone. Save yourself from your mind going to the > bad > > things. > > > > You do good to the extent you can do, but don't think of bad done by > > others.... > > > > The responsibility is more on to those who are more evolved. Now we > are all > > on the path on very swift, high evolution and therefore we have to be > > extremely cautious what we think and what we speak. Don't bring bad > things, > > wrong things done by others to your mind and don't let that mind be > spoiled > > which is infused with God consciousness. > > >
