--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG" <wg...@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" <wgm4u@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG" <wgm4u@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > He is the figure for a person in bondage who is attached to > > > > > > money and the material world. In other words, he is a miser. > > > > > > Does that sound familiar to anyone? > > > > > > > > > > yeah...to everyone! Romans 3:23 ....for all have sinned and > > > > > fallen short of the glory of God. > > > > > > > > Now THAT, Billy, is why you will never be on my > > > > "Do Not Bother To Read List." > > > > > > > > There was *compassion* in that post, almost as if > > > > you could include yourself in the group that has > > > > "sinned and fallen short..." > > > > > > > > NOT that I believe in either "sin" or "fallen short." > > > > It's just that I believe in 1) hope, 2) compassion > > > > and forgiveness, and 3) the redeeming value of a > > > > sense of humor more. > > > > > > > > You have a sense of humor, Billy. No matter how much > > > > we may disagree about mere ideas and beliefs, that > > > > puts you on a very different plane for me than those > > > > who...uh...haveth not. > > > > > > > > JohnR cast those who have "fallen short" in his eyes > > > > as "a person in bondage." You did not. > > > > > > > > Instead, you (whether it was conscious or not) did > > > > not necessarily *exclude* them from those you consider > > > > liberated, but *included* them in the greater idea of > > > > those of us (ALL of us) who have at one point or > > > > another "fallen short" of that which we'd like to > > > > believe about ourselves. Or ourSelves. Or our Self. > > > > > > > > That was OK in my book. That shows that no matter how > > > > much we may disagree about pissant-level nitpicks, we > > > > agree on something larger, something more "high level," > > > > if such a thing as "high" were to exist. > > > > > > Well, I'm speechless but thank you for the generous comment. > > > I hope after what I am about to say you won't withdraw the > > > compliment. :-) > > > > > > We are all (with a very few exceptions) under Satan's power! > > > > There is no Satan. But if you'd prefer to believe > > in one, I find that no more offensive than you > > believing in Santa Claus, or that there is no > > such thing as global warming. :-) > > Satan's power is the power of Maya or illusion. Metaphorically Satan (the > devil) was a fallen angel, that is, he 'fell' from heaven and created the > universe as we know it.
John Milton, the writer of Paradise Lost, would agree with you that Satan is a fallen angel. But many people would question the idea that Satan created the universe. Wasn't the Garden of Eden created by the Divine Father? In vedic literature, the asuras, rakshasas, or demons have unusual powers but they are considered below the level of human beings consciousness. > We humans have fallen into his maze of illusion, his mission is to bring out > the divinity in us through temptation, when all have been saved (as is the > divine plan) his work will be finished and he will be no more.......:-) > That's the positive spin to the devil's work. But he also wants to subjugate human beings who buy into the devil's plan of world domination. But there is a theological thought stating that the devil took his duty for the love of the Divine Being. However, most people would disagree with this idea. He actually wants to take over the Heavens too. Is that possible?
