Judy get off her high horse??? Never going to happen Curtis my man. But I 
admire your continued effort to have discourse with her being WAAY up there and 
you being a lowly blues singer and all...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltabl...@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > If you have decided that some scriptures are not the holy
> > > word of God, and therefore, the ideas in that book should
> > > be treated like any other human ideas, then you share my
> > > exact feelings about the Hindu scriptures.  People can
> > > and do believe what they like.  But if you don't believe
> > > every religion's scriptures and practice every direct
> > > command from their word of God, then you have made the
> > > same choices I have.
> > 
> > Speaking for myself, not exactly. I don't believe any of
> > them, but I haven't made the choice to rant
> 
> Pejorative characterization. Are you "ranting" about me?
> 
>  about how
> > "absurd" it is for the folks who do to have "superstitious
> > tribal beliefs."
> 
> So you think female circumcision should be respected as just another belief 
> option?  You don't think any of the beliefs that relate to honor killing 
> among tribes in Afghanistan could be characterized this way? 
> 
> 
> < I haven't chosen to declare their beliefs
> > "bullshit" or "horrific and repugnant"
> 
> So you haven't declared it. You still believe that about some of these 
> beliefs, don't you? 
> 
> 
> < or accuse them of making "absurdly inflated claims.">
> 
> So you think it is not absurdly inflated to believe that you know the mind of 
> God?  OK good for you, I do.  I also believe that people who claim to know 
> what happens after we die are making absurdly inflated claims.  How would you 
> characterize people who believe you are going to burn in hell for eternity 
> for not believing in Jesus as your personal savior?  Is my characterization 
> to harsh?  How you you prefer to characterize the beliefs of people who are 
> absolutely sure of that fact?
> 
>  I haven't chosen to
> > announce that society should "denounce" their beliefs.
> 
> You have just made different choices where to focus your attention.  You are 
> just as opposed as I am and western society as a whole to the belief that 
> blowing yourself up brings an eternal reward. Oh sorry it is the actions, not 
> the belief.  It is just fine for them to believe that blowing themselves and 
> innocent people makes one a martyr as long as they don't do it themselves? So 
> everyone else in that society who condones it are just fine in their precious 
> religious beliefs, right?  Their belief is no problem at all.  Same with the 
> people who believe women are less than men based on their scriptures, those 
> beliefs should not be challenged, right.  We just wait till they beat their 
> women and then go after them for the their actions?  And racism is cool as a 
> belief too  I suppose as long as they don't act on it. To each his or her own 
> when it comes to beliefs?  Wrong to denounce beliefs we think are morally 
> repugnant in society?  Not for me.
> 
>  I
> > don't demean religious people by referring to their
> > "special books" and "imaginary friends."
> 
> But these are precise description.  They are considered special books from 
> any others men have written.  What exactly is your problem with this 
> characterizations?  And if you don't believe in any of the versions of God 
> then they are just as imaginary for you as they are for me.  Just because you 
> haven't posted on this board about your POV doesn't make you superior.  You 
> don't believe in them either you just don't speak up about it. Your choice, 
> but you can get off your high horse about it.
> > 
> > Not believing in scripture doesn't automatically lead to
> > those choices.
> 
> No you can choose other things to focus on to denounce and to discuss that 
> you see as injustices or as important to discuss on a spiritual discussion 
> board.  Including your denunciation of my POV which I have chosen not to 
> characterize as a rant.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
>


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