--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_re...@...> wrote: > > How gay can one be if one can still get an erection for > a gender that they are not oriented towards? Aren't > homosexuals put off by the idea of hertosexuality to the > same degree that heterosexuals are put off
Some are, some aren't. But you need to remember that a good part of straight guys' horror at the thought of sex with another man is of social origin rather than a function of their inherent sexual orientation. For gay men, that's reversed--their orientation is *toward* what society doesn't approve of. So it's not parallel. <snip> > Seems to me that if one is "pure" then one cannot get it > up for the "wrong gender." If one can dally on both sides > of the fence, what does this say about the concept that > one is born with an orientation and thus it's natural and > not deviant? Nothing. One can be born with an orientation toward both sexes, with no preference for either. > If one can be born "bi," then is that a third gender > orientation, or is it a pathological sign that one is not > harmonious with one's "birthright?" Neither. Maybe you could think of it more like race. Sexual orientation seems to be on a spectrum, from "pure" homo- to "pure" hetero-, but including everything in between (with "pure" bi-, I guess, right in the middle). Actually, probably nobody is "pure" anything, but some are closer than others. And of course the distribution isn't even; there are more men on the hetero- than the homo- side of the spectrum. Again, though, this is seriously complicated by social attitudes that can mask (or intensify) inherent preference. Situation can also play a big role--as Alex points out, a lot of straight men have sex with each other in prison. (Alex, please make any necessary corrections to any of the above.) > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <j_alexander_stanley@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > That goes to show he is not completely gay. At best, he is > > > bisexual, unless his son was conceived through in vitro > > > fertilization. > > > > Nonsense. Lots of gay men have fathered children, especially when they live > > in societies where homosexuality is strongly condemned and they're > > pressured into conforming to society's heterosexist expectations. Ram Das > > may or may not be bisexual, but that isn't defined by his having had sex > > with a woman. Similarly, just because straight men have sex with other men > > in prison doesn't mean they're gay or bi. A person's innate sexuality isn't > > determined by the nature of any situational sexual activity.
