--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony...@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> > wrote: > > > > > > > But if these people are expressing true significant shifts of consciousness > > that would benefit humanity then Rick's project is going way beyond the > > movement in opening them for examination. I think either way Rick is > > really on to something with this project. By now we should expect people > > living in the states Maharishi described vaguely and promised repeatedly. > > Hearing from them is a great resource for all of us interested in > > evaluating these claims. > > > > Curtisdeltablue, well that is a large ascent in your POV. Nice.
That section is misleading out of the full context of my post. In context it is not an "ascent" of my POV large or small. I always keep the option open that someday you all who practice spiritual techniques may do or say something that indicates you are functioning on a higher level from the rest of us. It just hasn't happened yet. Same thing with the God idea. He might show up someday and insist that I get baptized in the Potomac and accept Jesus as my personal savior. I'll bring my kayak and make a day of it on the condition that it includes a happy ending. Yes, I think Rick is on to something also. > & timely in its way. Agreed. As I said in the full context of the post there interviews are valuable no matter where you fall on the belief spectrum. I think he could easily get some national coverage of this project if the right person checks it out. I'm not so sure that the actual content of what people are saying in the interviews will motivate people to take up a spiritual practice but I haven't heard them all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is quite cool, are a lot more posted to the site now. Rick Archer > > > > > obviously has been quite busy interviewing. Is some great journalism > > > > > And good commentary too about spirituality. Thanks for taking the > > > > > time to do this Rick. > > > > > > > > > > http://batgap.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > FF Buddhas at the gas pumps. > > > > > > > > Funny that Rick has scooped the TM movement on this. Interviewing and > > > > publishing the 'awakened' this way. These various Fairfield neighbors > > > > (buddhas at the gas pump) seems are all of old TM movement. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the domes Bevan calls in every day to hear and commentate on > > > > the meditating experiences. Has been doing that for months as his > > > > domain. Those tapes available to publicly listen to? YouTube? Folks > > > > on the IA course have to stay put and listen to that commentary there > > > > as part of their program there. > > > > > > > > Rick's found buddhas out at the gas pumps of the larger meditating > > > > community would all welcome, in the domes as old meditators? A large > > > > irony of course is that they all seem to give credit to TM along the > > > > way yet by 'guideline' of the TM movement they mostly would not be > > > > welcome in the domes as most have visited with other holy people, > > > > saints or gurus. > > > > > > > > > > I have only seen one BudPump, but seek to watch more. > > > > > > The contrast of unfettered description of change in ones inner life (kind > > > of ironic huh) from the high-tea, silk couch, victorian approach of the > > > TMO, to a more blue jeans approach of BudGas, (The greening of the TMO -- > > > a reference to another 1970ish book that had a lot of impact "The > > > Greening of America" by Reich) raises the question of what other > > > different kinds of change may be manifesting in people's inner and outer > > > lives. Stuff that may not be the darling spiritual catch phrase of the > > > moment. Stuff that may not sound hot and sexy -- more mundane. > > > > > > And parallel to my adjacent post on social change, is the change > > > accelerating? Is it manifesting in new and unexpected ways? Can there be > > > opposite, multi-varied change that is far outside the spiritual-cafe > > > norm". More spiritual or inner core "outliers". Can anyone define (and > > > limit, by that definition) what inner change consists of? > > > > > > If change is accelerating, it may be unsettling. Like a rapid build > > > construction site, if you just saw the demolition of the old site, and > > > the deep excavation of the new, you might thing something bas was > > > happening. Without seeing more of the totality, it may seem bleak. > > > > > > Are different parts of the change related -- and if so how? Are outer > > > peoples change and pattern an pace of change related? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just listened to the Andy Schulman interview. Honest and cogent. > > > > > I also like the first three or so minutes in this Schulman-buddha > > > > > interview as Rick describing how people might see or react to > > > > > spiritual-ized people. Seems a good real categorization of what one > > > > > hears around. Can see that kind of variation in the skepticism in > > > > > anti-meditation/anti=spiritual response and TM-deniers on FFL too. > > > > > > > > > > http://batgap.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Transcendental Fairfield: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "People everywhere are undergoing a shift to an Awakened state of > > > > > > > consciousness which is transforming their understanding of > > > > > > > themselves and the world. For some, this shift has been abrupt > > > > > > > and dramatic. For others, it has been so gradual that they may > > > > > > > not have realized it has occurred. Such shifts, or "awakenings," > > > > > > > are not new: Christ spoke of the "Kingdom of Heaven within," > > > > > > > Buddhists speak of Nirvana, Zen masters of Satori, Hindus of > > > > > > > Moksha, but these traditions generally regard these states as > > > > > > > rare and difficult to attain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people are therefore skeptical of claims of higher states of > > > > > > > consciousness. They find it hard to believe that apparently > > > > > > > ordinary friends and neighbors might be experiencing something > > > > > > > extraordinary. Maybe they expect Enlightenment to look as > > > > > > > remarkable on the outside as it is reputed to be on the inside." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About, > > > > > > > > > > > > "This show will attempt to dispel skepticism and misconceptions by > > > > > > week after week, allowing otherwise ordinary people to relate their > > > > > > experience of spiritual awakening. The terminology is tricky, > > > > > > because there are no universally agreed upon definitions to > > > > > > describe this experience. Also, enlightenment is not something that > > > > > > an individual person "gets". It's not even something that the mind > > > > > > can grasp. It's an awakening to that which contains the mind and > > > > > > all other things. So it's not surprising that language is > > > > > > inadequate to convey it." > > > > > > > > > > > > http://batgap.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
