--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > Shemp, I don't have time for your disbelief games.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Disbelief games"?
> > 
> > I think, Unc, that you're the one playing head games
> > when you claim 
> > to have experienced "real" levitation and then, one
> > post later, upon 
> > questioning, qualify the claim.
> > 
> > Either you did or you didn't.
> > 
> > It sounds to me like you're playing a game of
> > spiritual-one-
> > upmanship: I'm special...I've actually experienced
> > someone 
> > levitating.
> 
> I've read through all these posts in this exchange and
> I can't find a hint of this
> "spiritual-one-upsmanship". What are you talking about
> Shemp? Unc is talking about his experinece and then
> considering the possibility that there was some sort
> of subjective element involved in the perception of
> the levitation. He's being honest. What's the big
> deal?

Part of it is that he started out by saying he'd
witnessed "real levitation."  That's misleading
in a TM crowd, which understands "real levitation"
to mean an objective physical process (whether
that's ultimately correct or not). If he admits 
the possibility that it may have been subjective,
he should have qualified "real" to begin with to 
make this clear.

Another part of it is that he got all pissy and
started putting Shemp down when Shemp pointed
this out. That's where you really see the
spiritual one-upmanship coming out.

And still another part of it is past history (on
alt.m.t, where Shemp has been a participant), in
which Barry routinely suggests that TMers are 
experientially impoverished compared to himself--
including demanding that they relate their
experiences and claiming that if they don't, they
must not have had any.  It becomes really quite
unpleasant on alt.m.t; you're just getting a 
taste of it here.






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