--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Alex Stanley wrote:
> >  
> > Has anyone actually awakened as a result of using this technology?
> 
> I wonder.
> 
> Alex, yours is the question I find myself asking about 
> any new thing I hear about. The fact that people are 
> awakening by whatever means has caused me to lose 
> patience for "life will be great at some future date" ideologies.
> 
> For example, a friend is studying the Course in 
> Miracles with Robert Perry, a respected teacher of 
> that program. Well, the Course has been around 
> since the mid-1960s. What's its record for generating 
> the results it promises? One of these days I'll have 
> my friend ask Perry.

I have offended some people on other spiritual forums
( I'm sure you're all surprised to hear this :-) by talking
about the three questions I ask of any spiritual teacher
I meet these days.  I have asked these questions of quite
a few people so far, with rather interesting results.  They
are the questions I feel that I *should* have asked before
embarking on past long-term spiritual studies.

So far, almost no one has been offended by being asked
these questions.  One of the only teachers who was 
offended was later arrested for fraud, and is now doing time 
in a New Mexico prison.  Go figure.  So anyway, the three
questions I ask (preferably in private, but if that is not
possible, in a public forum):

1. When you speak about enlightenment, are you speaking
from your own personal experience with enlightenment?

2. Have any students who follow the path you teach realized
their own enlightenment?

3. If the answer to #2 is yes, can you point them out to me
and allow me to speak to them?

So far, most of the teachers have been honest enough to 
answer "No" to questions #1 and #2.  A few have answered
"Yes" to #1 and (very sadly) "No" to #2.  The teacher who is
now in prison answered "Yes" to the first two questions and
threw me out of the room when I asked #3.  I still haven't
encountered anyone who answered "Yes" to all three
questions.  But I haven't stopped asking, which probably
makes me an incurably hopeful romantic, but there you
jolly well are, aren't you?

Unc






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