Thanks for sharing that RD, the peace and silence come through.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchy...@...> wrote:
>
> I became a teacher in Biarritz, France in 1976. Maharishi was there to give
> us the TM mantras. I'm grateful to him for this knowledge and I feel honor
> bound to "keep the teaching pure" as he asked me to do. I haven't taught
> anyone in years, but I've always been amazed at the utter simplicity of
> imparting the mantra after the puja. I feel blessed to have witnessed people
> transcending for the first time...so delicately, innocently, and beautifully.
> It's a joy. All I can say is, Jai Guru Dev and bow down.
>
> I don't experiment with mantras. I figure, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I
> do TM as instructed. I've had several advanced techniques, the age of
> enlightenment technique and the TM-Sidhis. I was on the Vedic Atom in India
> with Maharishi where I did a lot of rounding and also, long programs in the
> dome for many years. I've trimmed program down to about an hour twice a day.
> I don't go to the dome regularly, but I like to go when I'm not too busy with
> work or family. When I retire, I'd like to do a longer program again, but for
> now, I'm happy as it is. Maharishi's program has given me peace in my heart
> and silence in my awareness and that's plenty good enough for me.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" <emptybill@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > This question is interesting and might be valuable to consider. However
> > it is too simplistic to answer in a straightforward way.
> >
> >
> >
> > Since some of us were trained as TM teachers, the real question about
> > non-diksha mantras revolves around knowing how entertain a
> > "book" mantra by knowing how to introduce it to the mind. Other
> > questions revolve around the type and the length of the mantra.
> >
> >
> >
> > Most people here are used to practicing a monosyllabic mantra core that
> > is enhanced with extra syllables. But starting out with
> > "foreign" mantras and then asking if they work the same is just
> > too simplistic of an approach.
> >
> >
> >
> > Most teachers (post 197o) learned a whole list of core mantra bijas.
> > Later they found out that these bijas corresponded with various devata
> > mantras recorded in the Tantras. However just picking out a devata
> > mantra (such as NaraSingha or Kalika) is not at all the same experience
> > as using one of the TM bija sets.)
> >
> >
> >
> > So can we start with teachers who have meditated with other bija-akshara
> > mantras in the set they received when we were "made" initiators?
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll starting with the followingk observation:
> >
> >
> >
> > I received my mantra-set from MMY personally (mouth-to-ear) at Fiuggi in
> > 1972. Because I was already familiar with Sir John Woodruff's books
> > on Tantrika mantra-shastra, the mantras and their associated devatas was
> > not news to me since I already understood that the mantras were given as
> > traditional devata names in Woodruff's many works.
> >
> >
> >
> > Much later, when I worked briefly with different bija-s from the list, I
> > found them all to be quite potent once I indeed entertained them in my
> > awareness just as if they were my own mantra-of-initiation.
> >
> >
> >
> > I didn't continue using them to replace my own diksha mantra because
> > I did not see any point in doing so. However, reading various Tantric
> > shastras and their sadhanas shows that this can be a vary powerful way
> > to deepen and concentrated the root shakti of the tradition.
> >
> >
> >
> > So teachers
what say you?
> >
> >
> > **************************************
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" <yifuxero@> wrote:
> > >
> > > No, Richard. My point is based on experience. During my TM
> > initiation, I experienced some definite SHAKTI, along with what the TMO
> > calls "Transcendence". IN MY EXPERIENCE - my TM mantra has a
> > distinctive property: empowered ENERGY, not shared by:
> > >
> > > a. getting seed mantras from a book
> > > b. other mantras received from other Traditions.
> > >
> > > I'm just stating my experience; but ymmv.
> > > Maybe your mantra has no empowered Shakti in it, and for that reason
> > you believe people can save $ and get the mantras from a book.
> > >
> > > Let's hear what some other people have to say.
> > > To the others: Is YOUR TM mantra empowered, making it superior to a
> > mantra gotten from a book, or not. Let's hear it.
> > >
> > http://www.startlingart.com/Viewer.asp?ImageSource=fine_art&FileName=Pri\
> > mates_on_Parade
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" willytex@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > yifuxero:
> > > > > Richard: I don't quite understand your point.
> > > > > Are you suggesting that one should get the
> > > > > bija mantras from a book and not get an
> > > > > "empowered" mantra through Initiation?
> > > > >
> > > > According to at least three FFL pundits, that's
> > > > all you need to do. Vaj listed all the bijas and
> > > > Barry2 said they were all in books. What would
> > > > be the benefit of giving Bevan Morris $2,500 for
> > > > a single nonsense syllable to put before and after
> > > > his TM bija? Everyone knows Bevan has about zero
> > > > 'Shakti' power. You're not making any sense.
> > > >
> > >
> >
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