So that's your background, RD... And all along I've assumed you were a former roadie-street type person with a name like Raunchy Dog, when in fact you've had quite a spiritually clean background over the years.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchy...@...> wrote: > > I became a teacher in Biarritz, France in 1976. Maharishi was there to give us the TM mantras. I'm grateful to him for this knowledge and I feel honor bound to "keep the teaching pure" as he asked me to do. I haven't taught anyone in years, but I've always been amazed at the utter simplicity of imparting the mantra after the puja. I feel blessed to have witnessed people transcending for the first time...so delicately, innocently, and beautifully. It's a joy. All I can say is, Jai Guru Dev and bow down. > > I don't experiment with mantras. I figure, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I do TM as instructed. I've had several advanced techniques, the age of enlightenment technique and the TM-Sidhis. I was on the Vedic Atom in India with Maharishi where I did a lot of rounding and also, long programs in the dome for many years. I've trimmed program down to about an hour twice a day. I don't go to the dome regularly, but I like to go when I'm not too busy with work or family. When I retire, I'd like to do a longer program again, but for now, I'm happy as it is. Maharishi's program has given me peace in my heart and silence in my awareness and that's plenty good enough for me. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > > > > > > This question is interesting and might be valuable to consider. However > > it is too simplistic to answer in a straightforward way. > > > > > > > > Since some of us were trained as TM teachers, the real question about > > non-diksha mantras revolves around knowing how entertain a > > "book" mantra by knowing how to introduce it to the mind. Other > > questions revolve around the type and the length of the mantra. > > > > > > > > Most people here are used to practicing a monosyllabic mantra core that > > is enhanced with extra syllables. But starting out with > > "foreign" mantras and then asking if they work the same is just > > too simplistic of an approach. > > > > > > > > Most teachers (post 197o) learned a whole list of core mantra bijas. > > Later they found out that these bijas corresponded with various devata > > mantras recorded in the Tantras. However just picking out a devata > > mantra (such as NaraSingha or Kalika) is not at all the same experience > > as using one of the TM bija sets.) > > > > > > > > So can we start with teachers who have meditated with other bija-akshara > > mantras in the set they received when we were "made" initiators? > > > > > > > > I'll starting with the followingk observation: > > > > > > > > I received my mantra-set from MMY personally (mouth-to-ear) at Fiuggi in > > 1972. Because I was already familiar with Sir John Woodruff's books > > on Tantrika mantra-shastra, the mantras and their associated devatas was > > not news to me since I already understood that the mantras were given as > > traditional devata names in Woodruff's many works. > > > > > > > > Much later, when I worked briefly with different bija-s from the list, I > > found them all to be quite potent once I indeed entertained them in my > > awareness just as if they were my own mantra-of-initiation. > > > > > > > > I didn't continue using them to replace my own diksha mantra because > > I did not see any point in doing so. However, reading various Tantric > > shastras and their sadhanas shows that this can be a vary powerful way > > to deepen and concentrated the root shakti of the tradition. > > > > > > > > So teachers what say you? > > > > > > ************************************** > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" <yifuxero@> wrote: > > > > > > No, Richard. My point is based on experience. During my TM > > initiation, I experienced some definite SHAKTI, along with what the TMO > > calls "Transcendence". IN MY EXPERIENCE - my TM mantra has a > > distinctive property: empowered ENERGY, not shared by: > > > > > > a. getting seed mantras from a book > > > b. other mantras received from other Traditions. > > > > > > I'm just stating my experience; but ymmv. > > > Maybe your mantra has no empowered Shakti in it, and for that reason > > you believe people can save $ and get the mantras from a book. > > > > > > Let's hear what some other people have to say. > > > To the others: Is YOUR TM mantra empowered, making it superior to a > > mantra gotten from a book, or not. Let's hear it. > > > > > http://www.startlingart.com/Viewer.asp?ImageSource=fine_art&FileName=Pri\ \ > > mates_on_Parade > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" willytex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yifuxero: > > > > > Richard: I don't quite understand your point. > > > > > Are you suggesting that one should get the > > > > > bija mantras from a book and not get an > > > > > "empowered" mantra through Initiation? > > > > > > > > > According to at least three FFL pundits, that's > > > > all you need to do. Vaj listed all the bijas and > > > > Barry2 said they were all in books. What would > > > > be the benefit of giving Bevan Morris $2,500 for > > > > a single nonsense syllable to put before and after > > > > his TM bija? Everyone knows Bevan has about zero > > > > 'Shakti' power. You're not making any sense. > > > > > > > > > >
