--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > and: what is there about permanent witnessing that is NOT a benchmark > > > > of some sort, enlightenment-wise? > > > > > > Permanent witnessing is to enlightenment as having toenails > > > is to being human. > > > > > > Just a tiny part of a larger phenomenon... > > > > Except, of course, you don't need toenails to be human. Are you > > saying that witnessing isn't a defining characteristic, however > > beginning-level it actually is, of enlightenment? > > I am suggesting, since the consistent experience of people > who have begun witnessing frequently has been that, once > it "started" they realized it had never *not* been present, that > witnessing has no more physiological coorelation to enlight- > enment than having toenails does.
Witnessing refers to conscious awareness of Self along with activity (or sleep). Obviously Self has always been "present." What distinguishes witnessing from not-witnessing is *recognizing* that Self is present. > The witnessing was present before it was noticed. No, the *Self* was present before it was noticed. Witnessing is when it's noticed. > It is there > after it has been noticed. What is to test for? Whether there's a difference between the markers of noticing and the markers of not-noticing, of course. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
