One of the key lessons in my life, brought to my awareness by Maharishi, to whom I am eternally grateful for the technique that assisted me in moving past the illusion that any pain of mine was due to outside influences. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" <raviyogi@...> wrote: > > "Pain does serve a sacred role, though it is not begging to be spread to > others, or blamed on others. Rather it is like a sacred mantra to move > within, and heal thyself.:-)" > This is beautiful Jim !!! and totally spot on. I went through lot of > pain, blamed everyone else, and finally realized that it was all me. Yes > you heal thyself or once you find the source there is nothing to heal.. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> > wrote: > > > > A sad situation when one feels compelled to parade and exclaim over > one's wounds constantly. "Oh look how I bleed profusely!", "Look oh > arrogant worms how wounded am I", "I AM IN PAIN, and if you aren't you > are a self-important-true-believer-TM-MMY-etc-aaaahhhhh". > > > > Pain does serve a sacred role, though it is not begging to be spread > to others, or blamed on others. Rather it is like a sacred mantra to > move within, and heal thyself.:-) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" raviyogi@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB" <turquoiseb@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > He's talking about "spiritual narcissism," but for > > > > me that is synonymous with "faux spirituality." > > > > That is, unless the claimed spiritual person seems > > > > to show more interest in the welfare of other human > > > > beings than he does in himself or in his own sup- > > > > posed spiritual development, it's "faux." > > > > > > > > Where the rubber meets the road for me is walking > > > > the walk. Those who claim to be spiritual (or worse, > > > > to be having experiences that they deem "enlightened") > > > > but whose focus seems to consistently be "It's all > > > > about me" have IMO missed the point. The measure of > > > > spirituality is how much you do for others. Period. > > > It's natural for an enlightened person to give, but giving doesn't > > > guarantee enlightenment. If the measure of spirituality is how much > you > > > give then all the Christian missionaries in India must be all > > > enlightened. Spirituality is in the "being" and not "action", though > > > genuine spiritual like you said would never do any action that is in > > > their self interest. Yet there are many avadhutas - mad mystic > beings > > > who are content to enjoy their bliss, you surely can't accuse them > of > > > anything. > > > You masquerade here as someone who is genuinely interested in > > > spirituality, would you bother to read about the genuine charitable > > > works of Amma and go meet her? I doubt it, you are here to parade > your > > > wounds with false Guru and you use that whore of yours "your > intellect" > > > to bash Gurus and deceive. > > > > > > > > > > > Too many in the spiritual smorgasboard spend too > > > > much of their time "doing for themselves" or think- > > > > ing and talking only about themselves, and/or their > > > > claimed subjective experiences. I guess what I'm > > > > trying to say is that to me the word "spiritual" > > > > isn't *about* a seeker's subjective experiences. > > > > It's about something more measurable, what they > > > > do for others as a result of having had those > > > > subjective experiences. > > > Well again if you are really interested there's plenty out there, > not > > > every enlightened person can be or have the samskara to be global > Guru. > > > Nor can every enlightened person can or do so-called "measurable" > > > activities of help. > > > > > > > > As a general rule, the more a person talks about > > > > their unverifiable subjective experiences and > > > > tries to push out that they have value in them- > > > > selves and mean that he or she is "spiritual," > > > > the less spiritual I consider them. This may > > > > be a limitation on my part, but so be it... > > > > > > > > > > Glad to hear you acknowledge it, it is indeed a serious limitation > of > > > yours, stop trusting your intellect, heal your wounded heart and > listen > > > to it. > > > > > >
