Its an odd thing though. You can always look back after the fact and declare, "Oh, wasn't that obvious!" or "I have always been that" :-), and at the same time, while we are wanting to awaken, we have to do *something*, whether in the mind or the body, or both, to remain focused on the process, and learn primarily what *doesn't* work. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@...> wrote: > > "Argue for your limitations, and they're yours" > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" <wgm4u@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@> wrote: > > > > > * * * "Liberation in this very life" is not really a "goal" to be > > > achieved with effort as it is conventionally understood; liberation is if > > > anything more of an a priori understanding to be surrendered into. The > > > only effort involved, is in the *removal* or *cessation* of effort -- is > > > in the relinquishment of one's ingrained and separatist resistance to the > > > utter perfection of what IS, now, always has been, and ever shall be. > > > > Sounds like poetic nonsense to me, some of these Yogis take years and years > > to achieve Nirvikalpa Samadhi, by practicing Yama, Niyama, asana, > > pranayama, pratyahara, Dharana, Dhyana and samprajnata Samadhi finally > > leading to asamprajnata Samadhi. > > > > It takes Many many years, (lifetimes even) MMY said as much at Fuiggi > > Fonte, Italy, "You could meditate a million years and not reach unless you > > come to these courses". MMY > > > > Don't be fooled by a little mantra meditation here and there! The Guru Dev > > spent years and years in a cave for Christ's sake!! > > >
