On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:56 AM, blusc0ut wrote: >> Since even in Sri Vidya and other Hindu anuttara-tantra level sadhanas we >> result in a tantric-level ceasing of the mayaic form-body, you could easily >> say they not only failed to realize maha-sandhi levels of realization, they >> also missed the annutara Hindu level (such adepts are often described as >> simply "disappearing"). > > You mean like Ramalinga Swami of Vadalur, a place closeby Pondicherry? Well, > according to both of them, this was not their goal, nor yogic siddhis. There > is a two volume book by a disciple of the Mother, comparing Ramalinga with > their yoga, and letters and interchange between him and the Mother.
I don't believe it's a goal, it's a side-effect of their practice. Full realization often means transference to a heaven dimension first. Not all make that transition by physically dying, like the Vedantic videha-muktis. In the sutra system of the awakening school we acquire a subtle and highly refined body of light by virtue of our rebirth in the Akanistha realm. In such a perfect environment, we can purify all conscious and sub-conscious obscurations and attain perfect realization. At the level of annutara realization however, it is not necessary to be reborn first in the Akanistha dimension to obtain a subtle body of light. We instead create and perfect a very refined Illusion Body by way of a union of subtle prana and mind. And then we transfer consciousness to the Illusory body, attaining perfect enlightenment. At that moment the physical body, as a result of transference, can cease to appear physically. Around advanced yogis, this is often noticeable to students, as they'll become physically transparent at various times. >From the standpoint of Mahasandhi or Dzogchen, the creations of a mayic body >and rebirth as a deva are not real Buddhahood. Any enlightened state relying >on causality cannot be complete Buddhahood.
