"She actually seems to believe that I still read her posts."

Dude, she doesn't "seem to believe" anything. You clearly and unequivocally 
still read her posts - -e-v-e-r-y w-o-r-d. You are addicted to fighting with 
her. Other than that, the elephant sure must have had a full meal yesterday, 
cause the place sure stinks like dung (not incense). 

Spiritual experience has nothing to do with how many different meditations you 
have taught, or practiced. I know people who are hundreds of times more 
spiritually accomplished than you, and they have *never* meditated. You sound 
pretty insecure throughout your rant. Give it a rest. :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> >
> > > On Jan 31, 2011, at 7:04 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > > 
> > > Your turn. What movies did you loathe this year?
> > 
> > My problem is 1) I watch so many damn movies, I don't 
> > often remember the titles of the good ones...fuggedabout 
> > the BAD ones...
> 
> I completely understand. When I wrote my thread-starter
> yesterday, I actually had to scan through my list of 
> movies that I'd downloaded and seen this past year to
> remember the real stinkers. If I hadn't done that, I 
> wouldn't have been able to remember them, because they
> were blessedly gone from my memory. :-)
> 
> > Eat, Pray, Love was a bad one, esp. given all the hype. 
> > Religious narcissism at it's best.
> 
> Or worst. Self-indulgence and self-importance and
> "It's all about me" squared. 
> 
> > I was a fan of Sex and the City when it was on TV. I 
> > tried really, really hard to love Sex and the City 2, 
> > but instead I just loved watching how bad it was and 
> > reveling in that badness. 
> 
> The thing is, it wasn't just a bad movie. Its whole
> concept was to present four of the most unattractive
> women in the history of TV or movies *as if they not 
> only were attractive but worthy of envy and to be
> admired*. The movie so completely missed the point 
> of what it is to be human that it was scary.
> 
> > Legion truly sucked.
> 
> Yup. Blotted that one out, so much so that I forgot
> to mention it. :-)
> 
> > Inception tried so, so hard, but even Cialis couldn't 
> > have helped this movie get it up. Great effects, but 
> > in the end it was a supernatural thriller geared towards 
> > a Megachurch Christian videogamer level of religious 
> > imagination. If you still have repressed The Matrix 
> > fantasy material in your unconscious that makes you 
> > wonder if you're in a dream within a dream, that could 
> > end all any time (but actually keeps going on and on 
> > and on), then you'll probably like this movie. Likewise, 
> > Ekhart Tolle fans will probably like it's depth.
> 
> I completely agree. I have actually liked Nolan's 
> movies in the past, but "Inception" was just mediocrity
> personified. Like you, the fact that anyone saw anything 
> profound in it amazes me as much as anyone seeing pro-
> fundity in Maharishi's endlessly-recycled intro lectures.
> 
> > Judy Review: I've never watched a SAW movie yet, and I 
> > could care less they put one out in 3D. I'm certain 
> > enuff it sucked, that I didn't bother to watch it, 
> > even in 2D, even without Mel Gibson.
> 
> This quip, however, is why I'm really replying. It 
> nails the essence of our resident quester-after-
> authority almost as well as azgrey's brilliant "So 
> little to say and so many posts used proving it."
> 
> Besides, we all know that, having hoist herself on
> her own petard of not being able to control herself,
> Judy is sitting out there reading every word of 
> every post, fuming and spitting that she can't leap
> in and "correct" them. Well, here's one that she'll
> have to wait until 12:01 Central time Friday to
> "correct."  :-)
> 
> I think it's about time that someone pointed out 
> that the person on this forum who most consistently
> sets herself up as an "authority" has none. It can
> be accurately stated that Judy Stein possibly *has 
> the least actual spiritual experience of anyone on 
> this forum*.
> 
> Think about it. Pretty much the *only* things she's
> ever done in terms of actual hands-on spiritual 
> practice is to meditate regularly and watch a few
> videotapes. She's spent (as far as I can tell) only
> one short period of her life "rounding." She never
> became a TM teacher, and most tellingly, the person
> who considers herself qualified to speak authori-
> tatively about Maharishi and "what he taught" never
> was even in the same room with him. She's never been
> (again, as far as I can tell) in the same room with 
> ANY guru or spiritual teacher. Her relationship *with* 
> spiritual teachers is exactly the same as what you 
> suggest about her relationship with the movies she 
> offers opinions on, never having seen them. It's all 
> fantasy, all in her head. And the clincher is that 
> she feels that that is *enough* to pose as an 
> authority about them.
> 
> I'm really not sure which came first, the choice of
> profession as a petty tyrant who gets to impose her
> opinions on others (that is, being an editor) or the
> desire to impose her laughable "authority" on others,
> which led her to become an editor. It's a real chicken-
> and-egg situation. But again, I think it's worth 
> pointing out that *even within the realm of her 
> supposed experience* (editing, and the supposed 
> mastery of words), she's a really shitty writer. What 
> else can you call someone who has to spend a quarter 
> of her posts every week trying to claim that others 
> "misunderstood" or "misrepresented" what she wrote 
> and having to re-write it? A real writer just writes 
> and allows the writing to stand on its own, like
> azgrey did. His brilliant insight stands on its own,
> accurate and self-contained. Judy would require 10
> posts and double that number of insults to not 
> make her point even a fraction as well.
> 
> She actually seems to believe that I still read her
> posts. I can tell that from the first few lines of
> her posts that I see in Message View, which is all
> that I ever read. There is no POINT in reading more.
> She's never going to say anything worth reading;
> end of story. And the *reason* for this is that she
> doesn't have the breadth of experience necessary
> to have *earned* the aura of "authority" she likes
> to portray herself as having. She's an armchair
> seeker who has never done anything more than read
> *about* spirituality or watch it on TV. And it's
> the same with the other things she poses as an
> authority about after reading some article about
> them. One wonders at times whether the professional
> editor who likes to throw around the word "phony"
> has ever looked that word up.
> 
> There is no there there. "Authority" -- whether in
> a spiritual context or a mundane one, is conferred
> on someone based on what they've DONE, not what they
> have read about other people doing. Judy has never 
> understood this. And it looks as if she never will. 
> Why should anyone waste time reading the procla-
> mations of someone parroting experiences that are 
> at best second-hand when they could be off having 
> real experiences of their own, and learning about 
> things first-hand? 
> 
> Authority must be earned. It is conferred on the 
> basis of having gotten off your butt and DONE some-
> thing. Judy Stein has never in her life done anything 
> to deserve the authority she postures as having. End 
> of story.
>


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