--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <wayback71@...> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@...> wrote: <snip> > Somebody's likely to jump in and say it means we can > claim that we're not responsible for what we do and > think, but it's just the opposite. > <snip> > In the end, all this is just mucking around in the Relative > which, from what I have experienced, is really an auto-pilot > situation. It all happens by itself, it just feels as if we > are doing it. So we take responsibility for what we do and > say, and then we see that the gunas are to "blame" and there > is no one there to be responsible, and then we are still > somehow responsible since we are on the planet and acting > and part of humanity. You know what, it's late and I am > rambling.
Superb ramble, including what I snipped. That's exactly it, here we are, we can't not be responsible as long as we're playing the game. I couldn't figure out quite how to articulate that, but you finished it off beautifully. (I wish there were a good way to talk about this stuff without anthropomorphizing Nature and the gunas. Using scare quotes is about the best we can do, I guess. MMY, when he was dealing in abstractions, would sometimes put them in more concrete terms but stick "as if" in front of them--in this case, "we see that the gunas are as if to blame." Amounts to the same thing as scare quotes, but I suspect sometimes we missed the "as if" part and took the concrete terms literally.)