Which brings me back to the need (for me anyway) to rely on the brain I have to judge whether or not something is right or wrong or some shade in between.
For many years around MMY, I interpreted any action of his whether outwardly "wrong" or inconsiderate or whatever, as perfect. If MMY got angry at someone, it was only for that persons' good. If MMY got sick, it was because he was taking on the karma of someone....if he treated someone with cruelty (as he did when he literally spat water given to him by one of the staff women back in her face) it was surely a "lesson' she should be thankful for. Bit by bit though, I allowed myself to see his actions as being nothing more than they appeared to be on the surface. If he was angry, it could well be he was in a bad mood. If he got sick, it might be from picking up a virus like anyone else. If he was rude and cruel to someone, it might be because he was capable of rudeness and cruelty. For me, trusting my own view of reality...my own interpretation based on the sum total of my experience and knowledge up to that point in my life, has proven to be much more rewarding for me than relying on or counting on any kind of magical thinking. YMMV of course. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 13, 2011, at 2:03 PM, feste37 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, having said that, Mahesh did admire some of > > > > > > the most evil people. > > > > > > > > > > That's a classical and easy mistake to make. > > > > > Maharishi did not admire these dictators, he lifted them up > > > > > so they could leave office without any loss of lives. The > > > > > "Shah", Marcos, Haile Selassie, Peron - the list is long. > > > > > > > > Nabs, you know, if we assume MMY was fully > > > > enlightened, we don't have to deny that he admired > > > > those dictators. It's fully consistent with his > > > > teaching to assume that Nature caused him to admire > > > > them, that Nature "knew" his lifting them up would > > > > result in their leaving office with little or no > > > > violence. > > > > > > > > IOW, MMY didn't have to know what he was doing; he > > > > didn't have to foresee the effects of his actions. > > > > Nature "knew," and he was just following Nature's > > > > dictates. > > > > > > > > Or to put it another way, the gunas don't just > > > > control action in the world; they also control > > > > action inside our heads, what our brain's synapses > > > > do. > > > > > > > > That's one way of looking at it, anyway. I think it > > > > makes more sense than to argue that he had ulterior > > > > motives and was engaging in complicated plotting to > > > > bring about unexpectedly desirable results. He would > > > > have been just as surprised as anybody else at what > > > > Nature had wrought through him. > > > > > > > Judy, I have to say yet again that I think your post is > > > excellent and I like your thinking. It can explain an > > > awful lot. I am saving this one. > > > > Thanks, wayback, I'm pleased it clicked for you. I've > > been banging this drum for quite awhile now in various > > contexts; it has a lot of implications that tend to > > cut right through all the garbage folks agonize about. > > > > And again, as far as I can see, it's totally consistent > > with what MMY taught. If so, it's interesting that he > > didn't make a point of it (that I ever heard). > > > > Somebody's likely to jump in and say it means we can > > claim that we're not responsible for what we do and > > think, but it's just the opposite. > > Judy, as much as I agree with you, you know that this is a dangerous kind of > thought. Because it opens a pandora's box of possibilities. You can now > investigate not only the obvious mistakes of Maharishi, but also question his > other actions, the ones you formerly believed to be wise and an expression of > enlightenment. Because when the outcome will be good, even if the action is > deluded on the surface, well maybe this is true for a few more actions than > the ones you thought of. You could start to question everything. Nothing > doesn't have to be true in itself anymore, it could be true with regard to a > certain outcome. > > >
