> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" <shukra69@> wrote: > > > >
Hey Shukra69, I am quite glad you have come on here to FFL willing to defend and speak for the TM-Rajas. I think it is wonderful. You have always seemed to be close to things orthodox TM when you post here. So tell us, how do you see things going for these FF dome meditation numbers? Any ideas how to get the numbers up? You seem to have the voice of the Rajas. What say your Rajas. With Best Regards, -Buck in FF > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" <shukra69@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Rajas are all sweet and humble people > > > > > > They are sweet and humble, but live in a bubble of their own, and they > > > either don't ever look out, to see what people in the 'real world' are > > > concerned with. Rather they support the disconnect, an increasing number > > > of people have with the movement, by participating in the masquerading. > > > They all bought themselves into positions in the movement in the first, > > > which is ridiculus in itself. They should see, that they are playing > > > something that doesn't exist. > > > > > > > doing more than anyone for the betterment of the world. > > > > > > Or so they think. > > > > > > > It really ugly to make the kind of comments you have about good people. > > > > > > Humble people like this: > > > http://nosedef.blogspot.com/2009/04/david-lynch-forces-my-video-of-him.html > > > > > > > You are getting right into the groove of the blame and complain crowd > > > > of this group. > > > > > > Your tone is really intimitating, without saying anything substantial. > > > This kind fascist of mindset, > > You are making accusations without saying anything substantial, and you are > > buying into a lot of bs when you say that people bought their way into > > anything, they made a very self sacrificing donation is what they did. > > Of course, they bought that position, as you'd have to pay a million(!) bugs > to become a raja, and wear a crown. If they just made a *generous* donation, > they could lay their crowns down and be ordinary men and be silent about > their donation. > > > I am not the slightest bit fascist and neither is any Raja, > > you are participating in bashing is when you twist what people say and make > > them out to be fascists. > > it's that what is wrong with the TMO. > > > > > > You should complain not about Buck, but about me, whom Buck was citing. > > > Buck is very polite and courageous. He has what the Rajas are missing: > > > balls, and a love for truth. > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "(5) the end of one cycle is always the beginning of another" > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder, just watching the Aljazeera egypt broadcast, how that > > > > > > would apply to the present situation in the TM movement, which > > > > > > looks like it is in a state of induced coma. Hasn't Maharishi said, > > > > > > the movement belongs to those who move? Hasn't he said in an > > > > > > interview before his death, that all the initiators are his > > > > > > successors. > > > > > > > > > > > > As Judy pointed out recently, nature may 'want' something else > > > > > > despite of our choices. And that may apply to the movement itself. > > > > > > (See, I don't think the Maharishi Effect, if it exists, necessarily > > > > > > always works the way we--including Maharishi--expect or intend it > > > > > > to.) What I am trying to aim at is, that all the crazyness of the > > > > > > movement recently, Rajaism etc. could be just a means to wake the > > > > > > people in the movement up. Obviously nobody in the upper movement > > > > > > has the balls to do something essential to save it. All look > > > > > > paralyzed at each other it seems. Just a thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BluScout, good observation. > > > > > Our TM- Rajas are like any of the autocrats of the Arab world right > > > > > now. Out of control, isolated and just watching what the people are > > > > > doing. Probably a lot like Mubarac hold up somewhere these last few > > > > > days watching the news feeds of his people. And wishing to shut down > > > > > the damn internet. > > > > > > > > > > I listened to a person here in FF who was doing a survey of > > > > > meditators locally looking at housing needs. The person was just > > > > > surveying to know what people wanted. But was stunned by the > > > > > extremely vehement and aggravated response that were drawn when the > > > > > survey questions went over to sthapatya vedic architecture (!). The > > > > > surveyor was shocked (!) how strong the vehemence was and how it > > > > > rolled over in to everything about the TMmovement from just asking > > > > > about SthapatyaV. The survey was not particularly about SthpatyaV. > > > > > The surveyor was a little shell-shocked that this was in about half > > > > > of the surveying. > > > > > > > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, shit yes if they have guts to act. Yep, a great example of > > > > > > this within this particular 'dome number' thread would be these > > > > > > damn TM-Rajas. Take those dome numbers as goal, they are > > > > > > purposefully unifying. Then a few things that should help the dome > > > > > > numbers here if these TM-Rajas had guts along with a spine to act. > > > > > > A few things would be: > > > > > > > > > > > > Git rid of that DADT policy & the guidelines and all that about > > > > > > having > > > > > > seen saints and spiritual teachers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ethics: work at being honest every way and being transparent about > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > Work at gathering meditators back by becoming more spiritually > > > > > > ecumenical, less abrasive and less arrogant by reaching out to > > > > > > where all the meditators had went on to. > > > > > > > > > > > > Specifically deliver a vote of 'no-confidence' in that 'Prime > > > > > > Minister' who sits in the middle. Regime change. > > > > > > > > > > > > Retire the current MUM president. Send him packing around as > > > > > > 'emeritus' along with some of his people. Give them all 'Maharishi > > > > > > Awards' but give someone else the job, authority and power of being > > > > > > President of MUM now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop fealty testing. Just facilitate and plain welcome the > > > > > > meditators back. > > > > > > > > > > > > And of course drop entirely the robes, crowns and that > > > > > > invincibility sales pitch thing everywhere. Even to the January > > > > > > 12th birthday party in the dome. Or something like Guru Purnima. > > > > > > Jeesus. > > > > > > > > > > > > But no, instead they defeat the numbers at every turn in action. > > > > > > They and we are in deep shit with the dome numbers because they are > > > > > > such piss-poor doers in life. They are in charge of that. The > > > > > > buck stops there. It's life in the body and they are failing with > > > > > > the numbers. It's a damned shame. > > > > > > > > > > > > JGD, > > > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
