--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@> wrote: > > > > > > The numbers are about 1600-1700 at the moment, I think, which is actually > > an amazing achievement for a town of only 9,500. And this has been going on > > since 1979, day in, day out. Program in the Dome has only been canceled > > once or twice (because of the weather) in all those years. It shows > > extraordinary dedication and persistence in thousands of people over many > > years.I would like to see the policies lighten up in the way that Buck > > suggests, but I have no expectation that it will happen. > > > > > > Dear FFL, > > Om, just for a note of accuracy, our dome numbers tallies include having the > pundit boys within the larger number. Hence actually there are only a few > hundreds of meditators meditating in the domes together. Fest is right that > it is a remarkable place for the essential longitudinal spirituality of the > community. However, the policies and guidelines of the TM-Rajas currently do > not accommodate the larger meditating community in the domes. > > Of course it should be nice to have more people here meditating in the domes. > However be warned, that if you can arrange your life to come along and come > back to meditate in Fairfield, just be careful what you say through the dome > application process. It is very much a "Don't ask, Don't tell" process > towards getting accepted to meditate in the domes. > > But you're very welcome in the larger meditating community anyway. It's a > great place overall for meditating and spiritual progress. > > Aside from their hiring in Indians on visa as proxy substitute for > meditators in the domes, it seems they have abandoned any reconciliation with > the larger mediating community or dealing with the community issues. As they > have forge ahead with this own in the short term it seems not a good long > term prognosis for meditators in the domes essentially. > > I am always hopeful and do pray to the Unified Field that the TM-Rajas can > reconcile themselves to the community. That will take some work on their > part. > > With Best Regards, > -Buck > in FF >
Buck, even if the Rajas relaxed their rules and let any TM'er into the Domes, how many people would actually show up and do the program etc? Another 100 or 200 people? I seriously doubt that there are really very many people not now in the Domes who would be there if there were no barriers. Maybe they would try it a few times just for old times sake, but most people have moved on and established their independence and their own routines. Maybe you assume everyone is as interested in getting back in as you are. > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ...if you're an old-time meditator and should like to come > > > > > back to help meditate some in the domes, just practically > > > > > know that the TMmovement policy guidelines on having visited > > > > > and been with other saints is effectively un-changed. Rather, > > > > > it applies more evenly to meditators and old TM teachers now. > > > > > Essentially is still, "Don't ask, Don't tell" , or as > > > > > Maharaishi once coached, "practice lying". > > > > > > > > > > This Youtube short essentially is not far from the truth: > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOPXgBflM8I > > > > > > > > > > Status quo. > > > > > > > > Speaking directly to the "Buck" persona, what would > > > > he answer to the question, "Has it ever occurred to > > > > you that adherence to these policies is, in fact, a > > > > ploy to keep the 'Dome numbers' *down*, a way of > > > > making sure that the 'right numbers' are never > > > > reached, and that the 'Maharishi Effect' is thus > > > > never put to the test?" > > > > > > > > > > > > Color me not convinced that many of these people > > > > making these urgent pleas for more BBs For Peace > > > > actually want more BBs For Peace. Based on seeing > > > > him speak at the "Watershed Meeting," I am convinced > > > > that Mr. Settle wants that. But I also came away > > > > from watching that stream feeling that he suspects > > > > the same thing I do above. Do the "people in charge" > > > > ever want to *emerge* from the tunnel? Or do they > > > > want to keep the tunnel ride going on forever? > > > > > > > > What do the folks at ground zero think about all of > > > > these machinations, Buck? What do they think is behind > > > > the whole "Dome policy" thang, and what do they think > > > > its intent is? Genuinely curious. > > > > > > > > > > Dear Turqb, > > > > > > That is a great focal journalistic question for the meditating community. > > > A kind of a crux for the TM community. Yes certainly I have written a > > > lot about this here. It would be useful additionally to have some of the > > > real tru-believers who post here explain this split in their own words > > > here. Like Dick Mays, Feste and Shukra for instance. Or have a TM-Raja > > > who actually lives in Fairfield come on and explain themselves in a > > > public forum. Or a university trustee. If they have hearts they must > > > have feelings about how it is going for the dome numbers. > > > > > > Clearly there are different elements around in the TM- middle. There > > > certainly are different activity areas that draw people differently like > > > the university, the dome meditations, the pundits, the MSAE Maharishi > > > School, the schools of Maharishi Vedic-Hinduism like Maharishi AV, > > > Maharishi SV, Maharishi music, astrology etc. The David Lynch > > > Foundation. Meditation runs through it all as the common denominator > > > though faith and belief in Maharishi does not necessarily run through the > > > community in the same way by relationship. > > > > > > With the dome numbers, there certainly have been progressive people who > > > by experience would like to see the numbers of meditators facilitated > > > with the dome numbers effectively working. Progressives versus more > > > conservative elements who are rigidly doctrinal and would hold the domes > > > hostage even to a bitter end in their own way. These later are the > > > ultra-"Maharishi-said" TB'er fundamental-ists inside. The > > > faith-and-belief in Maharishi devotee types. These TM orthodox have > > > consolidated their grasp since Maharishi's death and they seem to hold > > > court now over the progressive elements. > > > > > > In the end, these ultra orthodox meditator conservatives won out over the > > > dome policy last year, holding that policy a fealty test to their own > > > standard. That was their choice to take it the way they did. As such > > > they effectively doomed the dome numbers last summer in their own wisdom. > > > Plan B now is augmenting the Pundit numbers to some threshold at some > > > cost for some while. > > > > > > Status quo now, > > > -Buck > > > in FF > > > > > >
