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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@...> wrote:
>
> Edg,
> 
> Here's a short clip of a documentary narrated by Charlton Heston about 
> forbidden archeology.  There's a longer version of this documentary when I 
> saw it on YouTube few months ago.  The documentary suggested that humans 
> could be much older than 200,000 years that you estimate.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nne_-j08yMo&feature=fvwrel
> 
> JR
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Jr,
> > 
> > I think of humans as starting 200,000 years ago.  You have EVIDENCE of 
> > early "fully human" beings?  
> > 
> > Edg
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Edg,
> > > 
> > > Some people say that humans have existed for much longer time than what 
> > > you estimate.  They have found archeological evidence to prove this.  But 
> > > mainstream archeologists do not accept such a drastic departure from the 
> > > current theory.
> > > 
> > > JR
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > To hell with what folks were able or not able to do 20,000 years ago.  
> > > > I'm interested in knowing why the first 180,000 years of human 
> > > > existence didn't produce agriculture.  There's your salient point of 
> > > > history -- when hunter gatherers got out voted by the farmers and the 
> > > > village stayed in one place from then on.  
> > > > 
> > > > I wonder what their "Ed Schultz" had to say about the transition, eh?
> > > > 
> > > > Edg
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Judy,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Here's a video clip that talks about the ruins in Tihuanaco,
> > > > > > estimated to be as old as 17,000, and Pumapunko, may be
> > > > > > older than the former.  These ruins are in Bolivia.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMviviXAIVI
> > > > > 
> > > > > Oh, gee, John, this is "ancient astronaut"
> > > > > nonsense. I don't know how they came up with that
> > > > > dating. Mainstream archeologists say these sites
> > > > > have been carbon-dated to 500-600 A.D.
> > > > > 
> > > > > History Channel has been into this weird stuff for
> > > > > quite some time now; it's kind of a shame.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And Bolivia is in South America too. ;-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Tangentially--folks tend to get all excited about 
> > > > > ancient elaborate constructions and sophisticated
> > > > > art because they don't understand how they could
> > > > > have been accomplished by "primitive" peoples and
> > > > > insist they must have had "outside" assistance.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think this is a crock, frankly. These people were
> > > > > just as ingenious and intelligent and creative as we
> > > > > are, and if they wanted to get something done, they
> > > > > could figure out ways to do it even without modern
> > > > > technology. That we don't know how they did it does
> > > > > not automatically mean they couldn't have done it!
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is an interesting article.  But there's a building
> > > > > > > > site with sophisticated stonework in Peru that may be
> > > > > > > > older than 20,000 years.  So, archeologists need to
> > > > > > > > factor this fact into their academic theories.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > If you know about it, John, I suspect they do too,
> > > > > > > and have already factored it in. (Do you remember the
> > > > > > > name of this place? Because while there are 20,000-
> > > > > > > year-old sites in Peru, they're coastal hunter-
> > > > > > > gatherer sites with no sophisticated stonework. I'd 
> > > > > > > be interested to know what you're thinking of.)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The Buttermilk Creek site is said to be the oldest
> > > > > > > in *North* America. Last I heard, Peru was in *South*
> > > > > > > America.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > But speaking of cave paintings rather than spear
> > > > > > > points or stonework, there was a really fabulous
> > > > > > > article in Slate recently, excerpted from Paris
> > > > > > > Review, well worth a read (no photos, sadly):
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > America's Ancient Cave Art
> > > > > > > Deep in the Cumberland Plateau, mysterious drawings,
> > > > > > > thousands of years old, offer a glimpse of lost Native
> > > > > > > American cultures and traditions
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > http://www.slate.com/id/2288619/
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" <willytex@> 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Archaeologists and other scientists report in Friday's 
> > > > > > > > > issue of the journal Science that excavations show 
> > > > > > > > > hunter-gatherers were living at the Buttermilk Creek site 
> > > > > > > > > and making projectile points, blades, choppers and other 
> > > > > > > > > tools from local chert for a long time, possibly as early 
> > > > > > > > > as 15,500 years ago..."
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Read more:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 'Spear Points Found in Texas Dial Back 
> > > > > > > > > Arrival of Humans in America'
> > > > > > > > > New York Times, March 24, 2011
> > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/4gdtw3r
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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