Edg, Some people say that humans have existed for much longer time than what you estimate. They have found archeological evidence to prove this. But mainstream archeologists do not accept such a drastic departure from the current theory.
JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@...> wrote: > > To hell with what folks were able or not able to do 20,000 years ago. I'm > interested in knowing why the first 180,000 years of human existence didn't > produce agriculture. There's your salient point of history -- when hunter > gatherers got out voted by the farmers and the village stayed in one place > from then on. > > I wonder what their "Ed Schultz" had to say about the transition, eh? > > Edg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > Judy, > > > > > > Here's a video clip that talks about the ruins in Tihuanaco, > > > estimated to be as old as 17,000, and Pumapunko, may be > > > older than the former. These ruins are in Bolivia. > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMviviXAIVI > > > > Oh, gee, John, this is "ancient astronaut" > > nonsense. I don't know how they came up with that > > dating. Mainstream archeologists say these sites > > have been carbon-dated to 500-600 A.D. > > > > History Channel has been into this weird stuff for > > quite some time now; it's kind of a shame. > > > > And Bolivia is in South America too. ;-) > > > > Tangentially--folks tend to get all excited about > > ancient elaborate constructions and sophisticated > > art because they don't understand how they could > > have been accomplished by "primitive" peoples and > > insist they must have had "outside" assistance. > > > > I think this is a crock, frankly. These people were > > just as ingenious and intelligent and creative as we > > are, and if they wanted to get something done, they > > could figure out ways to do it even without modern > > technology. That we don't know how they did it does > > not automatically mean they couldn't have done it! > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This is an interesting article. But there's a building > > > > > site with sophisticated stonework in Peru that may be > > > > > older than 20,000 years. So, archeologists need to > > > > > factor this fact into their academic theories. > > > > > > > > If you know about it, John, I suspect they do too, > > > > and have already factored it in. (Do you remember the > > > > name of this place? Because while there are 20,000- > > > > year-old sites in Peru, they're coastal hunter- > > > > gatherer sites with no sophisticated stonework. I'd > > > > be interested to know what you're thinking of.) > > > > > > > > The Buttermilk Creek site is said to be the oldest > > > > in *North* America. Last I heard, Peru was in *South* > > > > America. > > > > > > > > But speaking of cave paintings rather than spear > > > > points or stonework, there was a really fabulous > > > > article in Slate recently, excerpted from Paris > > > > Review, well worth a read (no photos, sadly): > > > > > > > > America's Ancient Cave Art > > > > Deep in the Cumberland Plateau, mysterious drawings, > > > > thousands of years old, offer a glimpse of lost Native > > > > American cultures and traditions > > > > > > > > http://www.slate.com/id/2288619/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" <willytex@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > "Archaeologists and other scientists report in Friday's > > > > > > issue of the journal Science that excavations show > > > > > > hunter-gatherers were living at the Buttermilk Creek site > > > > > > and making projectile points, blades, choppers and other > > > > > > tools from local chert for a long time, possibly as early > > > > > > as 15,500 years ago..." > > > > > > > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Spear Points Found in Texas Dial Back > > > > > > Arrival of Humans in America' > > > > > > New York Times, March 24, 2011 > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/4gdtw3r > > > > > > > > > >
