So you think the technique "sit lazily" is BS? What is this useful stuff you refer to?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <salsunshine@...> wrote: > > I'm sure it does. Unfortunately I have this > thing called a brain which usually allows > me to filter the BS from the useful stuff. > YMMV. > > On May 11, 2011, at 3:26 PM, giveabighand wrote: > > I came across a copy of the TM checking notes from a course in Norway in > 1963. One of the instructions was, "sit lazily." I loved it but some people > were freaked out by such a radical instruction. Our entire western way of > life is threatened by this "sit lazily" thing. I can see why it was later > left out of the checking notes. I can also imagine Maharishi gleefully > putting it in! > > You need to sit lazily to get to the place where expectations turn into > no-expectations. > > Works for me. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <salsunshine@> wrote: > > > > On May 11, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Dick Mays wrote: > > > >> The Experience of Bliss > >> Humboldt, 1970 > >> > >> Question: I've never had a meditation that I could consider blissful. So > >> when does bliss become a real experience? > >> > >> MAHARISHI: Real experience of bliss - in UC, where everything is in terms > >> of infinity. All values of life rise to the infinite value. And then it is > >> just bliss. > > > > "In other words, since you are asking a question > > that puts TM in even a slightly-unfavorable light, > > I'll just spout some meaningless jargon and hope > > that that "answers" your question. And if it > > doesn't, and you actually follow up by asking > > me what the hell I just said, I will have a couple > > of my German friends escort you to the door. It > > is all good, yes?" > > > >>> Question: Doesn't anything come before this? > >> > >> > >> MAHARISHI: Yes. On the subjective level of Being, bliss is available in > >> TC. Once the mind transcends - pure awareness is called bliss > >> consciousness. Even if it is momentary, we call it bliss. > >> > >> It is our experience in meditation, whether we completely transcend or > >> not. What happens is, all that is dear to us in life - very dear, so > >> beautiful, everything so nice, most attractive thing which clings to our > >> heart and mind all the time - even that is forgotten the moment we begin > >> to investigate into the finer regions of the mantra. > >> > >> In the transcendent is bliss consciousness. But on the way to it also the > >> absorption of the mind is so intense, mind gets so intensely and so > >> intimately absorbed in the perception of even the finer state of the > >> mantra, that this charm here at this level makes mind forget all that has > >> been so dear and so charming and so beautiful and so fascinating. All that > >> gets forgotten. > >> > >> From this even we can infer - inference is a very valid means of gaining > >> knowledge. So from this, that we even forget the dearest things, we infer > >> that the level of experience in the finer state of the mantra must be > >> charming enough to make us forget all charm of the gross experience. All > >> charm of the gross experience is put off and this charm holds the mind. > >> > >> And then further subtler stage and then further subtler stage - the charm > >> in all these experiences is of increasing value. And in that pure > >> awareness it is profound. That alone is there, pure awareness.... > >> > >> When you feel that you have not had any experience of bliss and you are > >> meditating for maybe two years or something, that means in every > >> meditation the mind is getting to the finer state and some deep rooted > >> stress starts to unstress. And this activity on the physical body does > >> not allow the mind to settle down. And that may be the reason that you > >> didn't have the contact with Being, which makes life blissful. > >> > >> But the very fact that you are meditating shows that the stresses are > >> being released and released and now after such a long time, any time you > >> could dive. The path is being cleared every time and any time you just > >>> be.... > > > > "And if I just keep droning on and on like this, > > hopefully nobody will notice (or at least mention) > > that I sound like a Indian Chatty Cathy that won't > > shut up. Because you see, when I get a question > > that doesn't fit into one of the answers I already > > have prepared, that is all I'm computed to do. > > Next!" > > >
