Wayback. Warning!, Warning!, Warning!.  Where is the scientific
evidence?  Where is the objective verification?  Don't you know this is
simple MOODMAKING or RANDAM BRAIN ACTIVITY.   You are goring some sacred
cows by describing this experience.   For what it's worth, I've also had
nice experiences similiar to this.  But to discuss them openly like this
can open you up to some  serious doubting.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <wayback71@...> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote:
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> > > Most spiritual teachers do have the ability to do number two and a
> > > number here might argue they experienced number 2 or what is
usually
> > > called "darshan" even with Maharishi. The guy did have some shakti
> > > after all. If some folks didn't experience maybe they hit him on a
> > > bad day or their nervous system was just too coarse to experience
> > > it.
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> > Ignoring the obvious humor bait of the "number two"
> > references :-), I'd love to hear from those who feel
> > that they experienced what I'm talking about with MMY.
> > I never did.
> >
> > The occasional light "buzz," or a feeling of upliftment
> > maybe, but the full-blown experience of one of his 3
> > higher states of consciousness, never. IMO, what most
> > people I've talked to experience as "darshan" is an
> > occult buzz, not what I'm talking about at all.
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> I almost always had that lightness and quieting of thoughts and a
certain sense of the aliveness of the energy in MMY's presence. But
twice I had something much more,: my awareness just shifted and became
infinite, there was no "I" to find anywhere, just infinity, and that was
so powerful and stunning that I was not aware of much else at all for a
while. Not much thought, just a stunned wonder and taking it all in.
Then, I as I moved around and had to interact, I noticed this silence
and energy just everywhere and especially where I put my attention.
These 2 experiences lasted a a few hours each and then faded (during
which feelings of bliss and joy were intensely everywhere). I felt
bereft when they were done - smaller and trapped in the cycle of
thoughts and small awareness I believe that MMY's presence triggered
them. They were of a completely different nature than the buzz or
lightness I usually felt around MMY. They were entirely different states
of awareness.
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> I also had a few more of these more profound and intense types of
experiences (way more than the buzz) without being in MMY"s presence,
but directly after meditating, and once even before learning TM - at
about age 18. And I think I had something similar at about age 4, after
awakening from a nap in which I had dreamt that a snake was biting my
left big toe! I think energy traveled from there to my brain and that
began some experience.
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> I never heard MMY talk about his darshan or that he tried to evoke
these shifts in SOC's with his students. I assumed many people had this
happen - one reason they stuck around even in the midst of the
craziness. And we all assumed that happned all the time with those in
the very inner circle like Bevan and John and skinboys.
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> > As you suggest, it could be that I just didn't groove
> > with him and did with the other teachers I wrote about
> > originally. Did you ever experience this (being able to
> > experience a full-blown higher state of consciousness)
> > while with Maharishi? With anyone else? Genuinely curious.
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