--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: TurquoiseB > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 1:08 AM > > My point is simply that in organizations where the > students are making regular progress in their spiritual > development, and such progress is easily discernible, > no such tactics seem necessary. > > ------Could you name such an organization because I have never seen one.
I found it true of two Tibetan-based organizations in Santa Fe, and it seems to be true of the Tibetan organ- izations I have encountered here. I could be wrong in my perceptions, of course, but I have never seen such Next Best Thing tactics in any of these organizations, or the need for them. ,And the people I talked to seemed very happy with their practices and with their progress with them, and still were after, in many cases, many years or decades with the organizations. Sorry I can't give you the actual names/lineages/titles for the organizations, but that stuff just goes in one chakra and out another for me. I get invited to places, spend some time there, and within a couple of days I couldn't tell you the teachers' names or the actual name of the organization. I suspect that part of this is because I don't value lineage or "collect" enpowerments or value having seen Guru X or Rinpoche Y terribly much. Another part of it is that during the time I was in Santa Fe I was not only not looking for a group to be part of, I was somewhat averse to being part of one. I'd just go places, check out the scen, and whether I was impressed or not impressed, leave and usually not go back. The only reason I can remember Gangaji's name (of all the teachers and organizations I interacted with in Santa Fe) is that her name was short and I got to spend a little "offstage" time with her because I was invited by one of her old friends. On the other hand, I wouldn't class her organization as being of the type I mentioned. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/