--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" 
> > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB 
> > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > > If that's what you want out of a spiritual teacher, 
I'm
> > > > > > > > > sure there are many out there who will provide it.  
Me, 
> > > > > > > > > I'd be happier with someone who told me the truth.
> > <snip>
> > > > > > Of course, the ignorant are always free to continue 
suffering 
> > > > > > eternally if that is their choice; forever approaching 
> > > > > > freedom and then backing away, because the perceived pain 
of 
> > > > > > confronting their boundaries is greater than the 
perceived 
> > > > > > reward of freedom from suffering. Totally their choice. 
> > > > > > Personally, I call that fence sitting and it has never 
any 
> > > > > > much benefit for me.
> > > > > 
> > > > > How many kids have you raised?
> > > > 
> > > > I am raising my daughter (14) if that's what you mean. The 
point 
> > > > being that there must be a balance to raise a child properly 
and 
> > > > give them loving and good guidance. If I was always following 
my 
> > > > child's lead, she wouldn't like it much, nor would I. To 
avoid 
> > > > sharing wisdom with someone is absurd, unless you have none 
to 
> > > share.
> > > 
> > > A 14-year-old is basically an immature adult. BIIIG difference 
> > > between 14 and, say, 4. If you deal with a 4 year old as though 
> > > they're an adult, they may well not have a clue what you're 
talking 
> > > about, NOT because they don't have the life-experiences to 
related, 
> > > but because they don't have the processing ability to grasp the 
> > > concepts.
> > 
> > Right.  Suppose you told your 4-year-old child that
> > one day you would die, and they would never see you
> > again?  And you added that while this probably
> > wouldn't happen for many years, it very well could
> > happen tomorrow?
> > 
> > That would certainly be "the truth," but telling your
> > child this "truth" would be very likely to do them
> > some serious psychological damage.
> 
> Or it might just enable the child to grow up with 
> a realistic approach to death and dying, as opposed
> to the fantasyland of the Western approach to dying.
> 
> What you described is the way that Tibetans I knew
> in Santa Fe raised their kids.  Those kids were among
> the happiest and most well-adjusted I've ever met.

It also isn't what I was talking about anyway. Death/not-death isn't 
part of the processing thing, as far as I can tell, at least not past 
the age where kids learn to talk in sentences.




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