* * Works for me! I was just using the Indra-Brahma-Rudra model here; but I too can easily see the black holes as yonis or Mother-matter-matrices of Unconditional Love. Vishnu for me can comfortably be the Matter-Mother, Shiva the Spirit-Father, and Brahma the Sol-Soul-child of either sex. Perhaps then we as males would be more likely to see the inner golden Brahma-singularity as male awareness, the Divine Son, and the outer golden Brahma-maya-reflection as the female body of creation, the Divine Daughter...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau <m@...> wrote: > > Yes, thanks, I was referring to the earlier post and feel I better understand > what you're trying to say. It is, I must say, somewhat convoluted, though > that's what the universe is, always folding back in on itself, intellectual > and masculine. Where's the feminine in all this? In the outer universe, I > always saw the dissolution occurring when the great central suns threw > themselves in the great central black holes, and all the different parts of > the galaxies and universes followed in their own places and ways, with all > that collapsing back into the one, true singularity, which then re-entered > the vacuum state. And I always thought of the black holes as the yonis of > the universe, i.e. the archetypal feminine aspect of the divine mother. > > On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:31 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > My apologies -- that should be "Shiva's centrifugal energy-HA! of > > dissolution" -- which would be an internal view of Shiva exploding or > > dissolving outward from our central-point Brahma-singularity, in what would > > externally be the white-hole of Vishnu's centripetal establishment and > > loving, coalescing support for Brahma's radiant, equatorial, rotational > > golden-ring or disc of manifest creation. And then outwardly, Shiva's > > external black-hole destruction of manifest creation, actually brings us > > down the rabbit-hole or worm-hole of our inner Vishnu's loving coalescence > > into our inner Brahmic singularity-point. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau <m@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Aug 2, 2011, at 8:58 AM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > > > As to your infrared-ultraviolet query, it appears Kundalini will > > > > > generally throw out ALL of our old junk as she is housecleaning from > > > > > basement to attic (and back); this can feel like a personal assault > > > > > if we are attached to any of it...and we usually are :-) > > > > > > > > > Yes, I understand this but was hoping for an explication of your > > > > original reference to infrared and ultraviolet. I just tried to find > > > > it, both in my saved posts and on the FFL website, but, for some > > > > reason, couldn't. If I remember right you were associating them with > > > > two of the Vedic Gods as they fit into your model in a way I didn't > > > > understand. Could you run that by me again? Not sure why I want it, > > > > but, if you will, humor me. > > > > > > * * I believe Ravi brought up the ultra-violated joke, in response to > > > Jim's suggesting you had been X-Rayed. So I just brought up the other end > > > of the spectrum with infra-rediwhipped. > > > > > > Perhaps you are referring to an earlier post where I suggested that > > > traditionally Indra-Vishnu (or his avatar, Krishna) is Sattva, the > > > blue-shifted end of the spectrum, while Rudra is the Tamas, the > > > red-shifted end, with Brahma ruling as Rajas, the gold sphere-and-disk at > > > the middle, the visible universe. > > > > > > However, this outwardly makes Rudra the slowest-vibrating end, which > > > correlates with our exoteric conventional understanding of Tamas as being > > > the resistance of inert matter, but not really with our inward > > > understanding of genuine Tamas as being Shiva's centripetal energy-HA! of > > > dissolution. > > > > > > Again, it appears to be a matter of viewpoint -- the inner-reality's > > > Vishnu is the outer-reality's Shiva, and vice-versa. > > > > > > > >