Thank you, Curtis On Aug 8, 2011, at 10:33 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> Mark > > > But if there were some deeper, cosmic, ooga booga going on here, I'd love > > to know what it was. > > > > Me: > Maharishi fits a pattern of narcissistic users. And despite his huge > influence in our lives, his footprint was relatively small by the numbers. > > There are so many guys like him who we have sized up and dismissed, like Rev. > Moon whom I assume you don't believe is in fact God on earth. But many > thousands do. Some with stories similar to your own about his miraculous acts > or their inner visions of his divinity. These guys are commonly described as > being surrounded by angels on the "inner" planes. > > The compelling nature of these experiences force some people to put Maharishi > in a protected class, a special class of humans, and everyone does this with > their own version of "that guy". Think of how many miracle stories we could > collect about people who we would loath to think of as enlightened or special. > > I keep referencing Mao because he ran this on such a huge scale. They > believed that Mao was such a divine figure that he could make the farms ten > times more productive by planting them with ten times the rice. Because this > was unsustainable and an idiotic idea they had to have a train ahead of Mao's > train when he would travel to see the wonders of his magical farming. They > would literally stick the rice plants into the ground for him to see and then > take them all out again after he left to keep them from killing off all the > rice. Thousands of people actually creating the illusion so that they didn't > have to face his wrath for facing the reality of his madness. Millions > devoted to him with their actual lives, not just losing sleep around him like > we did. Because they saw him as God on earth, not like the rest of us. A guy > who killed tens of millions of Chinese with his policies. Who preached > chastity for everyone else but had his train stocked with around a hundred of > the finest young hotties from around China in his concubine express. > > Narcissists are expert at making you feel valuable when you are useful to > them. Then when you are not, you become ashes literally or figuratively in > their eyes. I believe the problem is giving another human such control of our > self-image. Believing that someone knows us better than we do ourselves. > > But those compelling experiences! I know. Compelling. But as humans we are > kinda suckers for that. We fumble the ball at getting to the bottom of a guy > we are connected with, but have 20/20 vision on the guy others are connected > with. Love really IS blind. It is a bug in our software exploited by human > weakness hackers like Maharishi. And it is always presented as for our own > good right? A good defined by the parameters of the system he is selling us. > Maybe not ONLY mercenary, he probably believed most of his own rap. But he > did end up with the money and we ended up in his service, for his higher > cause, that somehow didn't have room for our health insurance. > > The celebs were not under his control, so they got the brochure version of > him, Mr. Nice Yogi. No demands, always giggling, but also always coming > around to ways he could use their celebrity for his own. In one interview > Lennon talked about how Maharishi's attempt to go on tour with them was a big > "tell" about what he was all about. And the Beatles had a PHD in users at > that point. > > So as long as our subjective experiences and our interpretation of the events > that went on around him remain too compelling to interpret in another way, a > less magical one, there will always be a conflict of how we see him. Just > like any good little Moonie who has had enough but can't seem to shake that > last impression that they had dealt with a man not like you or me. A living > god on earth, who happened to also be a real asshole. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau <m@...> wrote: > > > > Yep, still here. I did say Sunday or Monday. And with the perfect and > > hilarious specimen below, hell, I may never be able to leave. > > But I still plan to and, if and before I do, I just wanted to put this in. > > Did anyone meet Ingegerd Engfeldt of Malmo, Sweden, besides me? Talk about > > special. My heart went out to her the second I saw her and, dead as she is, > > will always be partially hers. > > She tried to develop some cassette recording device/company with M's > > blessing and supposed backing only (according to dear Conny, that wonderful > > man whose info I can't always rely on--he recently informed me that Billy > > Clayton had died and I had to enlist Rick's help to, thankfully, burst that > > bubble--Billy recently did have bypass surgery, but survived, thank you > > very much, quite nicely) to be abandoned by M after putting everything she > > had into it. Shortly thereafter, she self-immolated (yes, literally). I was > > also told by Conny that Klaus Apelquist (however he spelled his name), very > > special skin boy after me, also self-immolated. > > So I have seen this pattern (You take what you need and you leave the rest > > but they should never have taken the very best), why did our man seem to > > have this habit of driving down the very best? And Angelika, too, the way > > he wasted her... > > Sometimes I can't help but have this thought that part of M's role was to > > dis-enable the best of a generation, to raise us up and cast us down (dare > > I even utter such a thing?). ((Actually, come to think of it, he did that > > all the time with his constant manipulations, creations and dissolutions of > > the hierarchies around him--hmm am I getting somewhere with this?)* > > You get my drift. I can't hold him as all bad, just like I can't hold him > > as all good. He was extravagant at both ends and all the way through the > > middle. But just what, exactly, was that man doing??? > > So much for me knowing him. > > Yes, I know, we all are everything and we all are nothing, everything is > > the Satguru and there is nothing but the Self. > > But, screw that, any insight on this from anywhere? > > (Of course, one could say that some, like the Beatles and Mia Farrow, were > > too strong to be wasted while others, like the above, Devendra, me, etc., > > were only wasted because of our weakness--that, perfect being that he was, > > he was wasting our weakness. But, for the moment, I won't be accepting that > > as the one and only valid "answer," though I will continue to look at it.) > > * So, I guess I'll chalk it up to this. Some of it might have been sincere > > efforts at ego busting, but the bottom line is that he never did his shadow > > work and he did, indeed, have quite a shadow body and that came out in all > > kinds of life-damaging ways (look at the TMO). > > But if there were some deeper, cosmic, ooga booga going on here, I'd love > > to know what it was. > > > > > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Bob Price wrote: > > > > > Edward, > > > > > > Welcome to FFL. > > > > > > Like you said; my house is special, my car is special, my wife is > > > special, my > > > kids are special, my guru was special and hell even my dog is special. > > > The fact I'm special goes > > > without saying. > > > > > > But just to clarify, none of us are hiding our specialness, its right > > > there on our sleeves. > > > Thats why we came to FFL, because we all know how special we are. We're > > > not so special that > > > we don't know some of us are more special than the rest of us. So to keep > > > everything clear > > > we call the most special "terminally special" and the rest are just > > > enablers. > > > So if you feel special, you've come to the right place. > > > > > > PS: If Steve is right- you're going to share a come to Jesus moment, I > > > want you to know that we feel > > > Jesus is special too. In fact, we've already established that the next > > > time round Jesus is coming back > > > as an Mexican IT worker named-you guessed it, Jesús. > > > > > > Are you Mexican Edward? > > > > > > From: Edward <eptfnj@...> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 6:26:17 PM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Devendra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans <dmevans365@> wrote: > > > > > > > >I am so tired of the exclusionary and egotistical statements... > > > > > > This is my view. > > > > > > People engage in all manner of behavior to feel special. > > > Basically we are all shallow - no exceptions. > > > > > > Some can afford an in-your-face house, car, boat, plane or be with > > > beautiful people during the day and night (Oh la la). > > > > > > Those that cannot, develop attitudes whether academic, trends or > > > belonging to special groups. > > > > > > We know the "My Guru is more Enlightened/Special/Mahasiddhi/whatever than > > > yours". > > > > > > There is also the incredible spectrum of experiences that will indicate a > > > special level of Consciousness or Liberation. Yawn. > > > > > > Whats the point of living if you CAN'T feel special by owning something > > > unique, professing to have unusual experiences or belonging to a very > > > special club or group within a club or have received special initiations > > > and instructions. Whoa - what about being a > > > Skin-Boy! > > > > > > The key is to NEVER admit to the game. > > > Keep up the appearance. > > > The more others feel out - the more you feel in. > > > Argue endlessly over who knows the Truth and avoid > > > actually discussing what this so-called Truth is all about. > > > > > > Funny thing. > > > Those long term dedicated and oh-so-articulate practitioners > > > of the Ancient systems of Yoga and Religion > > > > > > are often > > > > > > the most intolerant, foul-mouthed, shallow people you will have the > > > misfortune to bump into. > > > > > > Yoga? > > > Meditation? > > > Bulls**t pure and simple. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
