Mark, Don't bother with the questionnairepleaseunless you experience that it is something that has some intrinsic sense of value for you. It would be, I think, wrong for you to do it strictly as a favour for me. So, then: inuit it: Do I [Mark Landau] feel like committing myself to the exercise of answering these questions? or do I not feel like committing myself to this exercise? If the questionnaire goes unanswered, that in itself is a kind of communication to me. Is this understood, Mark?
Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau <m@...> wrote: > > Dear Robin (Yes, folks, I'm still here lurking, though this drew me out, > trying to figure out if the content is worth the glance and delete time. I > am glad to have read Earl's letter again, after all this time, and may float > one more attempt at digging deeper into my last question, though I fear I > won't get much further with it here.) > > But, Robin, I must say you have chutzpah. After what we've gone through (it > wasn't 100% irony on your side, am I correct?) you won't even have the > courtesy to answer two of my simple questions. Instead, you craft 100 for me > to answer, many of which are quite similar. (Is the below a psychology test?) > > So, if you will, answer these three and I will consider and probably > acquiesce to answering yours. (It may, after all, have some value for me.) > > 1. At it's peak, of -about- how many human souls did the RC Cult consist? > and > > 2. If you did carpet bomb MIU with pamphlets, what, in a nutshell please > -could you ever fulfill such a caveat-, did it say? > > 3. What is your purpose in the below, not, just, I hope, the sheer pleasure > of getting someone to jump through your hoops or the shallow pleasure of > engaging in intellectual mind games. If you feel you now know him, to what > end? > > On Aug 10, 2011, at 8:04 AM, maskedzebra wrote: > > > Dear Mark: Would you consider filling out this questionnaire? SA=Strongly > > Agree A=Agree SD=Strongly Disagree D=Disagree (mark each statement with one > > of these designated responses). Of course you are welcome, if you feel so > > inclined, to add a comment after giving your response (SA,A,SD,D). > > > > Note: This questionnaire has been specifically designed for you, but others > > at FFL are welcome to fill it out too (or think about they would answer > > each question). But every question is directed towards you, and there will > > be statements which anyone other than yourself cannot answer. > > > > 1. Maharishi was sincere. > > > > 2. Maharishi was a liar. > > > > 3. Maharishi could be cruel. > > > > 4. Maharishi was ruthless. > > > > 5. I have never seen Maharishi truly vulnerable or humble. > > > > 6. Maharishi had an ego. > > > > 7. Maharishi knew he was not the innocent and loving Master that he > > projected to his teachers. > > > > 8. Maharishi's soul was cold and unfeeling. > > > > 9. I have never seen Maharishi as incorruptible. > > > > 10. I can't believe that God truly loved Maharishi. > > > > 11. There are so many more sides to Maharishi than anyone on FFL would > > think, let alone imagine. > > > > 12. And some of those sides, yes, make him comparable (in some mystical > > sense at least) to Mao. > > > > 13. I do not love or revere Maharishi as my Master. > > > > 14. Maharishi was unkind to me. > > > > 15. I am not sure what Maharishi's ultimate agenda really was, whether it > > was good or evil. > > > > 16. Maharishi had a terrific sense of humour. > > > > 17. I think Maharishi's good deeds far exceeded his bad deeds. > > > > 18. Maharishi was enlightened. > > > > 19. Maharishi transformed the universe in a positive way. > > > > 20. Maharishi knew me better than I knew myself. > > > > 21. Maharishi took advantage of my weakness and vulnerability. > > > > 22. If I met Maharishi now, I would still feel love for him. > > > > 23. Maharishi never got confronted by reality such as to make him > > accountable for all that he did. > > > > 24. I think Bevan Morris's continued devotion to Maharishi a good thing; > > Bevan is not deceived about Maharishi. > > > > 25. I think the future of TM is bright. > > > > 26. Maharishi spun stories about the potential of TM that he knew were > > false. > > > > 27. Maharishi died, I believe, a broken man. > > > > 28. Maharishi lost some of his grace, power, and charisma as he aged. > > > > 29. Maharishi was just a very gifted and exceptional man; but a man all the > > same. Nothing intrinsically special or holy. > > > > 30. I believe Christ is on the same side as Maharishi and they essentially > > taught the same truth. > > > > 31. TM did me more good than harm. > > > > 32. I feel I know who Maharishi is; it's just that I can't quite excavate > > all this knowingness about him so as to make it fully conscious and > > intelligible to myself. > > > > 33. I know Maharishi as well as anyone knows himanyone, that is, that I > > know. > > > > 34. I believed in reincarnation even before psychedelics, TM, and Maharishi. > > > > 35. I would not be a sensitive and wise a person (in all my vulnerability > > and fragility) had I not done TM and known Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. > > > > 36. I have never read anything about Maharishi which essentially reflected > > all that I know about him. That is, something which captured the essence of > > the man. > > > > 37. I find it easy to refute the allegations made by Earl Kaplan in that > > famous letter of 2004. > > > > 38. Maharishi still haunts me. > > > > 39. I believe Maharishi drew me closer to God. > > > > 40. I believe I am objective about the man and the Guru, Maharishi Mahesh > > Yogi. > > > > 41. I think TM a good thing, and I recommend people to take up the practice. > > > > 42. I know of no person in the world who was close to and devoted to > > Maharishi who became the repository for any exceptional sense of integrity > > and wisdom. > > > > 43. Maharishi was unable to produce a worthy successor to himself. > > > > 44. Somewhere I know that my hatred of Maharishi (at least in some > > respects) is warranted, and acts as a protection for me against being a > > total victim of his influence upon me. > > > > 45. My experiences of being close to Maharishi as his skin boy did not > > produce any revelations about him that shocked me. > > > > 46. Anyone who continues to think Maharishi a Saint and perfect is deceived. > > > > 47. I believe in the existence of a Personal God. > > > > 48. Maharishi was, if you examine his actions, an implicit atheist. > > > > 49. Maharishi never demonstrated a sense of guilt or shame. > > > > 50. Maharishi was ten times more powerful than any human being I have > > encountered in my life. > > > > 51. Maharishi was, somewhere, a very beautiful and exquisite human being. > > > > 52. Maharishi was a true and authentic Master. > > > > 53. Guru Dev would be proud of Maharishi and everything he did. > > > > 54. Maharishi's legacy will ultimately be a positive one. > > > > 55. It's all downhill from here on in for Maharishi and TM. > > > > 56. I have an immortal soul. > > > > 57. There are things I still live by and believe that I owe to my > > association with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. > > > > 58. There are certain facts about Maharishi that I know, but cannot reveal, > > or choose not to reveal, because of how shocking they are. > > > > 59. Maharishi changed the world in a good way. > > > > 60. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi had evil in him. > > > > 61. Maharishi deserves to be thought of as a saviour for mankind. > > > > 62. TM has done much more good than harm. > > > > 63. I think it is safe to practise Transcendental Meditation. > > > > 64. I have no regrets about my time with Maharishi. > > > > 65. I sometimes get frustrated in knowing that my experience of Maharishi > > goes down so deep, but I am unable to entirely do justice to this > > experience, so as to make that experience available to others so they might > > benefit from this knowledge that is in me about him. > > > > 66. I think I am a more sincere person than Maharishi ever was. > > > > 67. I do not think of myself as inferior to Maharishi when it comes to > > standing before God. > > > > 68. I think Maharishi died a happy life, and that he 'dropped the body' in > > the most classic and perfect way that any enlightened being would. > > > > 69. Maharishi was full of it. > > > > 70. My life still amounts in the end to what happened to me by knowing > > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. > > > > 71. If Maharishi were alive now and I had permission to speak to him > > one-on-oneand I was fearless and confidentthere are some questions I > > would put to him that would challenge his honesty and integrity. I would > > like to see how he would answer these questions. > > > > 72. I never revealed to Maharishi what I really thought about him. > > > > 73. Maharishi somewhere deep inside of him knew what I really thought about > > him. He knew I was seeing another side to him other than the one he showed > > to the world. > > > > 74. It is better to love Maharishi than to despise him. > > > > 75. Maharishi is still my Master. > > > > 76. I don't believe anyone I knew who was associated with Maharishi has > > 'evolved' in any significant and discernible way. > > > > 77. Maharishi was capable of anythingcriminal or seedy; it doesn't matter. > > Maharishi had no shame. > > > > 78. I believe Maharishi's experience of himself was that he was a good, > > sincere, and honest human being. > > > > 79. Maharishi got corrupted well before I came to know him as his skin boy. > > > > 80. Maharishi now is in perfect blissand deserves to be so. > > > > 81. No initiator who dies accrues any real and positive benefit from having > > known and been devoted to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. > > > > 82. Maharishi remains essentially a mystery to everyone. But not, > > ultimately, to me. > > > > 83. Maharishi had a clear conscience. > > > > 84. At one point, at his zenith, Maharishi wasalmostall-powerful and > > all-knowing. > > > > 85. I think it a more valid perspective to see how beautiful Maharishi was > > rather than to see how corrupt he was. > > > > 86. Maharishi was not corrupt. > > > > 87. Maharishi's initiators were more sincere and innocent than he was. > > > > 88. I have never met anyone who I could say: This person is objective about > > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. This person really knows Maharishi the way I do. > > > > 89. Maharishi wrecked the lives of hundreds, if not thousands, of human > > beings. > > > > 90. His spiritually illicit (given his vows to Guru Dev) relationship with > > women is indefensible. > > > > 91. Maharishi was over-all a good guy. > > > > 92. Maharishi was way more intelligent than anyone I have ever known. > > > > 93. Maharishi always meant to do good. > > > > 94. Maharishi was an idealist. > > > > 95. Maharishi towards the end of his life descended into madness. > > > > 96. Maharishi has probably already reincarnated and is living somewhere as > > a small child, destined for even greater glory. > > > > 97. No: Maharishi is off the wheel of death and rebirth. > > > > 98. This Hinduism may be all nonsense. > > > > 99. Maharishi's World Plan will never come to anything. > > > > 100. Maharishi has essentially made a profoundly positive contribution to > > the world and God (or Reality) was behind all that he did. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau <m@...> wrote: > > > > > > Yep, still here. I did say Sunday or Monday. And with the perfect and > > > hilarious specimen below, hell, I may never be able to leave. > > > But I still plan to and, if and before I do, I just wanted to put this in. > > > Did anyone meet Ingegerd Engfeldt of Malmo, Sweden, besides me? Talk > > > about special. My heart went out to her the second I saw her and, dead as > > > she is, will always be partially hers. > > > She tried to develop some cassette recording device/company with M's > > > blessing and supposed backing only (according to dear Conny, that > > > wonderful man whose info I can't always rely on--he recently informed me > > > that Billy Clayton had died and I had to enlist Rick's help to, > > > thankfully, burst that bubble--Billy recently did have bypass surgery, > > > but survived, thank you very much, quite nicely) to be abandoned by M > > > after putting everything she had into it. Shortly thereafter, she > > > self-immolated (yes, literally). I was also told by Conny that Klaus > > > Apelquist (however he spelled his name), very special skin boy after me, > > > also self-immolated. > > > So I have seen this pattern (You take what you need and you leave the > > > rest but they should never have taken the very best), why did our man > > > seem to have this habit of driving down the very best? And Angelika, too, > > > the way he wasted her... > > > Sometimes I can't help but have this thought that part of M's role was to > > > dis-enable the best of a generation, to raise us up and cast us down > > > (dare I even utter such a thing?). ((Actually, come to think of it, he > > > did that all the time with his constant manipulations, creations and > > > dissolutions of the hierarchies around him--hmm am I getting somewhere > > > with this?)* > > > You get my drift. I can't hold him as all bad, just like I can't hold him > > > as all good. He was extravagant at both ends and all the way through the > > > middle. But just what, exactly, was that man doing??? > > > So much for me knowing him. > > > Yes, I know, we all are everything and we all are nothing, everything is > > > the Satguru and there is nothing but the Self. > > > But, screw that, any insight on this from anywhere? > > > (Of course, one could say that some, like the Beatles and Mia Farrow, > > > were too strong to be wasted while others, like the above, Devendra, me, > > > etc., were only wasted because of our weakness--that, perfect being that > > > he was, he was wasting our weakness. But, for the moment, I won't be > > > accepting that as the one and only valid "answer," though I will continue > > > to look at it.) > > > * So, I guess I'll chalk it up to this. Some of it might have been > > > sincere efforts at ego busting, but the bottom line is that he never did > > > his shadow work and he did, indeed, have quite a shadow body and that > > > came out in all kinds of life-damaging ways (look at the TMO). > > > But if there were some deeper, cosmic, ooga booga going on here, I'd love > > > to know what it was. > > > > > > > > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Bob Price wrote: > > > > > > > Edward, > > > > > > > > Welcome to FFL. > > > > > > > > Like you said; my house is special, my car is special, my wife is > > > > special, my > > > > kids are special, my guru was special and hell even my dog is special. > > > > The fact I'm special goes > > > > without saying. > > > > > > > > But just to clarify, none of us are hiding our specialness, its right > > > > there on our sleeves. > > > > Thats why we came to FFL, because we all know how special we are. We're > > > > not so special that > > > > we don't know some of us are more special than the rest of us. So to > > > > keep everything clear > > > > we call the most special "terminally special" and the rest are just > > > > enablers. > > > > So if you feel special, you've come to the right place. > > > > > > > > PS: If Steve is right- you're going to share a come to Jesus moment, I > > > > want you to know that we feel > > > > Jesus is special too. In fact, we've already established that the next > > > > time round Jesus is coming back > > > > as an Mexican IT worker named-you guessed it, Jesús. > > > > > > > > Are you Mexican Edward? > > > > > > > > From: Edward <eptfnj@> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 6:26:17 PM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Devendra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans <dmevans365@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >I am so tired of the exclusionary and egotistical statements... > > > > > > > > This is my view. > > > > > > > > People engage in all manner of behavior to feel special. > > > > Basically we are all shallow - no exceptions. > > > > > > > > Some can afford an in-your-face house, car, boat, plane or be with > > > > beautiful people during the day and night (Oh la la). > > > > > > > > Those that cannot, develop attitudes whether academic, trends or > > > > belonging to special groups. > > > > > > > > We know the "My Guru is more Enlightened/Special/Mahasiddhi/whatever > > > > than yours". > > > > > > > > There is also the incredible spectrum of experiences that will indicate > > > > a special level of Consciousness or Liberation. Yawn. > > > > > > > > Whats the point of living if you CAN'T feel special by owning something > > > > unique, professing to have unusual experiences or belonging to a very > > > > special club or group within a club or have received special > > > > initiations and instructions. Whoa - what about being a > > > > Skin-Boy! > > > > > > > > The key is to NEVER admit to the game. > > > > Keep up the appearance. > > > > The more others feel out - the more you feel in. > > > > Argue endlessly over who knows the Truth and avoid > > > > actually discussing what this so-called Truth is all about. > > > > > > > > Funny thing. > > > > Those long term dedicated and oh-so-articulate practitioners > > > > of the Ancient systems of Yoga and Religion > > > > > > > > are often > > > > > > > > the most intolerant, foul-mouthed, shallow people you will have the > > > > misfortune to bump into. > > > > > > > > Yoga? > > > > Meditation? > > > > Bulls**t pure and simple. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
