The greatest decade yet man! Thanks for the response.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "martyboi" <martyboi@...> wrote:
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> Apparently we are in a similar place...sounds like my resume. I am 55,
> initiated at 17. Did sidhis, lived on Staff at Cobb, hung out with Sri Sri
> and some Yogananda people.
>
> I always kept an emotional distance from the movement due to homophobia
> (theirs and mine) and which I now see as a great blessing. For me AOL was a
> more "mature" and humane version of the movement...however, movements are
> more alike than they are different - and the pressure for social conformity
> is ruinous.
>
> I think just as a young man moves out of his parent's house to strike out on
> his own, a mature man has to leave behind the safety of the belief systems he
> adopted as a kid to find his place in the world. Perhaps this is the project
> for all men in our decade.
>
> Indeed the fifties are a great decade of life...I just wish my joints didn't
> hurt when I get out of bed!
>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@>
> wrote:
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> > Thanks for the answers.
> >
> >
> > This is a false polarity:
> >
> >
> > <I dunno Curtis, just because you bought the whole stinkin' enchilada for
> > many
> > years doesn't mean the opposite of everything you learned in the movement
> > is the
> > truth...dive for the pearls...they are there.>
> >
> > This is not the intellectual dynamic at play in my questions. I am a
> > meditator. TM is my pearl from that era. I am just questioning the
> > beliefs that surround the experience. The years I bought the whole ...
> > were between 16 and 31. It doesn't surprise me that I have reconsidered
> > the beliefs I held in that period in my 5th decade of life experience and
> > study. I am progressing in understanding, not just polarizing against what
> > I believed as a young man. Now I have more years out than I was in. These
> > are the formative experiences that are important to me now.
> >
> >
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> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "martyboi" <martyboi@> wrote:
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> > >
> > > Answers interleaved:
> > >
> > > > This may be your own construction. Do you feel the same thing about
> > > > voodoo ceremonies? How about about a rasta smoke-in? A religious
> > > > ritual involving killing a goat? A human?
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes it might be my own construction - but its equally possible it is not.
> > > Never been to a voodoo ceremony. Seems creepy.
> > > Been to many smoke-ins...love Rastafarians.
> > > Don't think I like killing so much. Though I've eaten goat...very tasty
> > > after a smoke-in.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > When our subconscious expectations are matched in the environment, our
> > > > brains reward us. We get flooded with the expected good feelings. We
> > > > have historically been shown to suck at evaluating such groups outside
> > > > us. You are judging what is outside by a feeling inside. It implies
> > > > only simultaneity, not causality.
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes...Actually I don't spend much of my time evaluating people or
> > > groups..I'm not looking for grace it just sorta randomly shows up. Can't
> > > explain it...and certainly don't need to justify or prove it.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Here is what I propose: we get a curtain and you sit facing away from
> > > > it. Across the curtain we bring in a succession of followers of Sebud,
> > > > Thug hash smokers from Northern India (the original assassins) and a
> > > > variety of new age groups along with a group of guys who used to cut up
> > > > bodies for the mob.
> > > >
> > > > Without the visual clues, can you accurately tell what field effect
> > > > they are emanating?
> > > >
> > > > (I can get the Mafia guys and thugs, I need help gathering up the rest.)
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't choose when and where or how I get vibes from people or
> > > situations... It's just something that randomly happens.
> > >
> > > I dunno Curtis, just because you bought the whole stinkin' enchilada for
> > > many years doesn't mean the opposite of everything you learned in the
> > > movement is the truth...dive for the pearls...they are there.
> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I do believe that individuals and groups of individuals can be
> > > > > conduits for grace to flow into this world...Each member of the group
> > > > > "tugging" each member along in a symbiotic manner.
> > > > >
> > > > > What I don't believe is that the manner in which that grace expresses
> > > > > itself in the world is predictable with respect to individuals: as we
> > > > > know, "God is no respecter of persons." (Acts 10:34)
> > > > >
> > > > > Grace influences our thoughts, behaviors and choices in the world and
> > > > > moves situations towards positive outcomes. But - it's only through
> > > > > action and behavior that it (grace)becomes meaningful.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am sure that sitting and radiating grace is great. But, Krishna
> > > > > told Arjuna to act for a reason...Action is the bridge through which
> > > > > that grace becomes manifest.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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