Dear Bhairitu, one religious tradition at a time! I am still learning about M and Advaitic thought. But one day I will take the time to explore it. Cheers Bill
From: Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras Nonsense. I said "hang out" not "become a disciple." I've talked with many an Indian (I had Indian employees where I worked) about these things. It was insightful to hear how a typical Indian grew up in the Brahmin catechism (or sometimes didn't). I also attended many a vedic astrology conference where many of us hung out with Indian astrologers, some who were tantrics. And of course I've also been to India. Reading books is more likely to lead to confusion unless you hold them at arm's length in opinion. Another series I meant to mention would be Dr. Robert Svoboda's trilogy on tantra. I use to like to pin him and Hart DeFouw down on their tantric learning and especially about mantra shastra. Both were initiates and not spectators. The problem for TMers has been this "purity of the teaching" thing which could just as well be "keep TM in it's package." At those astrology conferences I knew folks who were still strongly involved in the TMO but stil interested in learning from people from other paths. They could keep things sorted in their minds. And I doubt that they were ever banned from "the Domes." On 09/08/2011 12:35 PM, emptybill wrote: > A suggestion that could be lead to much confusion. > No self-respecting Indian has less than 20-30 mantras > on hand at any time. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu<noozguru@...> wrote: >> I don't know where you live but I would suggest if you have an Indian >> community there to become familiar with local yogis and tantrics. > Many >> will advertise in the local Indian publications as astrologers. > You'll >> have to sniff out the charlatans but there are some very knowledge >> people out there. And even the an Indian immigrant will laugh at the >> naiveté of the typical American "white guy." You don't have to > become a >> disciple but you'll may learn more than you will find in any book just >> hanging out with them. >> >> Some Indian authored books worth reading: >> >> "Practicals of Mantras and Tantra" by L.R. Chawdhri >> Not a well written book and there are miss transliterations of the >> Devanagari mantras (hence, why you might want to learn the script >> first). Chawdhri was also a Tantric Samrat and reveals some > information >> on the subject. Just note, many of these kinds of books will list >> commonly known mantras and not ones they actually use. >> >> "Yantra-Mantra Tantra and Occult Sciences" by Dr. Bhojraj Dwivedi >> This a more recently published but and better written book with much >> information on the subject. >> >> "Mind -- It's Mysteries and Control" by Swami Sivananda which was > first >> published before Maharishi even dreamed of becoming a monk: >> http://www.sivananda.com/MindMysteriesControl.htm >> >> I have long discarded TM as being "yoga lite." >> >> > >