On 09/12/2011 01:17 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> While I understand the strong emotions involved in wanting to "replay"
> all of the events of 9/11, I think it's important for at least one voice
> on this forum to point out that in spiritual terms what we're talking
> about is classic attachment to a set of afflictive emotions, and a
> conscious attempt to *stay* attached.
>
> 9/11 inspired for Americans a very real and palpable sense of several
> afflictive emotions -- fear, anger, outrage, and the desire for revenge.
> ALL of these emotions have basically defined the national character of
> the United States Of America in the ten years since the event. Indulging
> in these afflictive emotions has cost the country its stature, its
> credibility, its civil liberties, trillions of dollars, thousands of
> lost lives, the bankruptcy of its economy, and more.
>
> So what does the country -- aided by the same media that supported its
> unconscionable post-9/11 wars and loss of its own liberties -- DO when
> confronted by the ten-year anniversary of 9/11? They stage an
> over-the-top media frenzy, the very *idea* of which is to get viewers to
> wallow in the afflictive emotions of the original event as much as
> humanly possible, to bring them to the top of everyone's emotional
> processing stack, and activate them again.
>
> Starting to feel as if there is more to life than fear, anger, outrage,
> and the desire for revenge? That's UnAmerican. Watch these videos, and
> you'll be politically correct again, wallowing in the same afflictive
> emotions you've been wallowing in for the last ten years. GOTTA
> perpetuate the fear. GOTTA perpetuate the anger. GOTTA perpetuate the
> outrage. GOTTA perpetuate the desire for revenge. Just GOTTA. It's the
> American way.
>
> The Spanish got over having one of their bullet trains bombed by
> terrorists in a month, without descending into the maelstrom of hate and
> lashing out that America did. The British public did mostly the same
> thing w.r.t. the bombings in the London Underground (mostly...its
> government went the other direction, and tried to emulate the American
> way of indulgence in these afflictive emotions). Americans? They just
> seem to want more of the same.
>
> I would suspect that this media indulgence in the past probably got the
> highest ratings of any TV shows in years. And I also suspect that as a
> result many in yesterday's audience are as established in wallowing in
> the same afflictive emotions today as they were on 9/12/2001. THAT, in
> my opinion, was the whole point.

Blame the media.  Actually yesterday the football game had a lot  of 
viewers as people preferred that over wallowing in the "maya" on 9/11.   
A lot of people in this country have moved on from the "emotional" 
aspect of 9/11 and some of us just insist that the real story be told 
and the true criminals be brought to justice.  Never should such a crime 
go unpunished.

I only listened to only one "wallowing" show and that was comedian Brian 
Copeland's Sunday morning show on KGO.  I just tuned in as I do every 
Sunday to see what he was talking about.  Brian is someone however that 
turns into Data from STNG when 9/11 conspiracies are brought up and he 
has a "Mr. Everyman" persona so had to "wallow."

The other 9/11 shows I listened to were on Friday night Gene Burns when 
I checked to see what he was going to talk about said he was going to do 
a show on 9/11 conspiracies.  He was unprepared to say the least.  He 
had some great calls including one from a professor at Berkeley who 
explained to him thermite, it's chemical composition and how it could 
have been painted on beams in the towers prior to 9/11.   Burns, 
infected with the Data "does not compute" disease had some pretty 
ludicrous improvised replies to some callers.  And most callers turned 
out to be very grounded with a lot of facts at their disposal.

The other two shows were Thom Hartmann's special show yesterday 
afternoon which was an intelligent discussion and of course I had to 
listen to what Alex Jones would be up to for the day.  Neither were 
"wallowing" shows.

People may like to call me a "conspiracy theorist" if they want but it's 
all "line on water" to me.  Frankly sometimes it just damn fun to post 
the stuff and watch the reactions. ;-)

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