Within the TM community evidently there are progressive (secular) Hagelin-ites who would like to see people meditating (doing TM) for good reasons as a common bond on the one hand, and then the reactionary conservative Bevanistas or "Maharishi-saids" on the other hand who fight (often ruthlessly) for their doctrine of faith and belief in Maharishi.
The long-term numbers parsed seem to show the Bevan-nistas to be winning out, with progressive TM in a rear-guard decline. (late 2011) http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html > > > > > > "All the communes under consideration have as their bond of union > > > > > some form of religious belief. It is asserted by some writers who > > > > > theorize about communism that a commune can not exist long without > > > > > some fanatical religious thought as its cementing force; while others > > > > > assert with equal positiveness that it is possible to maintain a > > > > > commune in which the members shall have diverse and diverging beliefs > > > > > in religious matters. It seems to me that both these theories are > > > > > wrong; but that it is true that a commune to exist harmoniously, must > > > > > be composed of persons who are of one mind upon some question which > > > > > to them shall appear so important as to take the place of a religion, > > > > > if it is not essentially religious; though it need not be fanatically > > > > > held." -Nordhoff (1875) > > > > > > > > That paragraph is particularly useful criticism. The communal 'Reason to be'. > > > > > > "These seventy-two communes make but little noise in the world; they live > > quiet and peaceful lives, and do not like to admit strangers to their > > privacy." -Nordhoff (1875) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "All the communes under consideration have as their bond of union > > > > > some form of religious belief. It is asserted by some writers who > > > > > theorize about communism that a commune can not exist long without > > > > > some fanatical religious thought as its cementing force; while others > > > > > assert with equal positiveness that it is possible to maintain a > > > > > commune in which the members shall have diverse and diverging beliefs > > > > > in religious matters. It seems to me that both these theories are > > > > > wrong; but that it is true that a commune to exist harmoniously, must > > > > > be composed of persons who are of one mind upon some question which > > > > > to them shall appear so important as to take the place of a religion, > > > > > if it is not essentially religious; though it need not be fanatically > > > > > held." -Nordhoff (1875) > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Moreover- and this is another important consideration- I am satisfied > > > > that during its accumulation the Commun(-al)ists enjoyed a greater > > > > amount of comfort, and vastly greater security against want and > > > > demoralization, than were attained by their neighbors or the > > > > surrounding population, with better schools and opportunities of > > > > training for their children, and far less exposure for the women, and > > > > the aged and infirm." -Nordhoff (1875) > > > > > > > > > > "It will be seen that the oldest of these communes have existed for > > > eighty years; the youngest cited here for review has been founded > > > twenty-two years. Of all, only two societies remain under their guidance > > > of their founders; ... The common assertion that a commune must break up > > > on the death of its founder would thus appear to be erroneous." > > > -Nordhoff (1875) > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > TM is based on the creative function of the unified field, the vast > > > > > > ocean of nothingness. Physicists are now discovering that the > > > > > > universe is made up mostly of dark energy and dark matter. Both > > > > > > account for 96 percent of the total constituent of the universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > The predominance of dark energy shows that the vacuum of the > > > > > > universe is highly unstable and is fueling the the expansion and > > > > > > acceleration of the universe. In Maharishi-speak, this confirms > > > > > > the infinite creativity and dynamism of the unified field. > > > > > > > > > > > > By attuning to this unified field, one gains the power of the dark > > > > > > energy that science has discovered, which can be experienced in the > > > > > > human physiology as "bliss". > > > > > > > > > > > > So, MMY's ideas are very much in keeping with recent scientific > > > > > > discoveries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As doctrine of faith and belief in Maharishi > > > > > > > versus > > > > > > > the practicing of the technique. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A TM-movement that tests for faith on the one hand, > > > > > > > or just facilitates its practitioners on the other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will the movement be sustaining, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what would promote its sustainability? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are the numbers sustainable as it is? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What should the TM-Rajas do? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >