--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I think this self-trust thing in regard to realization
> > is a bit off. Trust is an emotional/mental assumptive
> > act. You have to trust when there is doubt for
> > whatever reason. It's hard to doubt your own
> > experience, even in waking state. But doubting "pure
> > existence" itself is even more difficult! To say I
> > doubt my own existence is a bit of a paradox, of
> > course, because prior to doubting is existence. So you
> > can't doubt that "you are." You can doubt any
> > experience, but not that. Now to inquire into who this
> > "you" is will bring about some interesting results! 
> >
>  
> ****
> You seem to mean by realization a state of being where the conscious
> mind's thinking process has stopped and what is left is just  silent
> awareness and witnessing. However this state cannot last in everyday
> activity, because conscious conceptual thinking forms an important
> evolutionary function for us. I don't want to deny the value of this
> silent state, but personally I mean by realization a  permanent
> formation of a new more advanced, more holistic and inclusive
> structure of the mind.
> 
> This new structure is capable of better and more truthfully relating
> to the world than the previous structure. I think that it is an
> important cornerstone in the evolution of our mind to learn to trust
> oneself more than someone we consider to be an authority.  This 
could
> also mean being better capable of discriminating, when to trust an
> authority and when not. It is clear we cannot be specialists in 
every
> area, so we have to trust the authority of others, but less in
> interpreting our subjective experiences. Of course it is good to 
have
> an open mind and listen to what others have to say, but I myself am
> the authority who decides, if I accept that information or not.
> 
> Irmeli

Skip Alexander liken various stages of enlightenment (CC and beyond) 
to Piagetian stages. 




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