--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <salsunshine@> wrote: > > > > On Oct 20, 2011, at 8:25 AM, feste37 wrote: > > > > > Oprah spent 7 hours in Fairfield, apparently. Landed at > > > Fairfield airport at ll and stayed until 6. Visited the > > > Maharishi School as well as the Dome. > > > > > > Poor Turq reminds me of the way the right-wing attacks > > > Obama. "He's a socialist! He's a Muslim! He hates America! > > > He's an illegal immigrant! Why can't you all see that?" > > > Of course, sensible people make their own judgments and > > > see that such attacks are all nonsense, which is why Obama's > > > personal popularity remains reasonably high. Same with TM. > > > Those who are not infected with hatred and malice are capable > > > of making fair judgments about what it has to offer. > > > > And of course your attempt to dodge a perfectly > > logical question doesn't reflect "hatred and malice" > > or, for that matter, condescension, right? In > > case you forgot, here it is again: > > > > "Why wasn't she denied a dome pass for "seeing other > > teachers" such as Eckhart Tolle? You would be, after > > all." > > > > Dodge all you want, of course. But it leaves you > > with zero credibility. Not that you exactly had much > > before. > > Might I remind everyone of a Subject line I wrote > recently, "You don't believe what we believe, > therefore you hate it...and us." > > All cultists are the same. If they've been indcoc- > trinated to believe in the "all positive" nature > of their cult or its teacher or its teachings, > there is a tendency to react to any criticism of > them by 1) lashing out at the critics, 2) calling > them liars, 3) and accusing them of the same hatred > that they themselves are *demonstrating*. > > As Sal points out, all I did in my first post is > ask a viable question. Why *wasn't* Oprah Winfrey > denied a dome pass, when feste and Nabby and shukra > all would have been denied a pass if they admitted > to "seeing" the same teachers that Oprah has? My bet > is that none of the TBs will address this question. > > My second post was merely questioning why (if it turns > out to be true) Oprah's staff haven't been doing their > job by properly "vetting" any potentially controversial > subject before allowing her to go all Oprah on it on > her show? Seems to me she'd want to know about all of > this stuff. > > What they're objecting to IS her knowing about it. > They would prefer that Oprah only heard the "good > stuff," the positive stuff that is the veneer of > the TMO, and never get to see below the surface. > My suggestion is that this is no longer likely to > happen, the way it did back during the Merv days. > The Internet has changed everything in terms of > freedom of information. If nothing else, anyone > who Googles "Oprah" and "TM" will find these > threads on Fairfield Life. They'll pop right > to the top. > > Interestingly, I would have *no objection* to TM > becoming popular again and being taught widely, > with a number of caveats. First, it should be taught > for what it's worth -- maximum $75.00 US.
Are you going to set prices for all goods and services, or just TM? > Second, it > should be taught "standalone," as a simple technique > of meditation, and not as a "gateway drug" to the > TMO's other, far more expensive courses. Are you going to regulate all bundled products and services or just TM? (No bundling I-tunes with I-phones!) > Third, that > other than providing free checking, there is no > attempt by the TMO to "upsell" new meditators and > get them to learn the sidhis or move to Fairfield > and become part of the dome scene. You sort of get the pattern by now. However your ideas have merit. Command and Control economies. What a brilliant idea. And by the way, M. may love your idea. "Command and Control, hmmm, very good." > > But that's never going to happen. TM *is* being > marketed as the gateway drug to a cult. Is Apple a cult? Is the NFL a cult? [ obligatory :) since humor, or weird attemtps to simulate such, sometimes is misread here. >Its leaders > won't be happy until everyone who signed up for a > simple technique "practiced 20 minutes morning and > evening" has completely changed their lives to revolve > around spending several hours a day "in the domes." > And Oprah Winfrey should know that before she backs > the simple 20/20 technique on her show. There is not > a chance on earth that the TMO will *not* attempt to > suck new meditators into the larger organization, > and try to indoctrinate them the way its now-aging > membership has been indoctrinated for decades. The > public should be aware of this "upselling" *before* > they start TM. > > What the TBs who are trying to demonize me for > saying this are afraid of is that the public WILL > become aware of this. The TBs would prefer that > they hear only the PR version of TM. And they'll > lash out like the cultists they are at anyone who > suggests that the public has a right to know more. > They'd rather keep them in the dark. Not gonna > happen. The world has changed since the Merv days. >
