I have studied Indian history and before the Islamic invasion, before repressed Victorian British, before Buddhism, before perverted fantasies resulting in admiration of self abnegating, lifeless, starving Gurus like Ramana and pseudo spiritual icons like Gandhi, arts, music was thriving in India.
It was a liberal, sophisticated, sexually liberated culture. Women were respected, admired, worshipped and sought after. Music, arts, drama flourished. Very hard for people like John to get rid of thousands of years of perverted sexually repressed Roman Catholic conditioning. On Nov 9, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Ravi Yogi <raviy...@att.net> wrote: > Yeah I don't think John got your point. Without love, sex, lust, women, > beauty where's the art, where's the music? > > Just to clarify the Bhagwan in video doesn't say lust doesn't happen to the > enlightened. He says that it does happen but that an enlightened wouldn't > hold on it IOW project perverted fantasies on other's sexual lives. > > > On Nov 9, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Bob Price <bobpri...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> John, >> >> Many thanks, I think I get it; since enlightened artists will continue to >> produce great art, the Bhagavan was speaking paradoxically: "The enlightened >> man cannot do that" (have lustful thoughts), as in: "What is the sound of >> one hand clapping" (Ravi mentioned this also has its place---what else are >> computers for). >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRzcCbjQ_5I&feature=related >> >> ________________________________ >> From: John <jr_...@yahoo.com> >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 9:47:20 AM >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust? >> >> Of course not!! These clips showed beautiful works of art. Kirk Douglas' >> acting was excellent. Dr. Hook's song says it all. >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price <bobpriced@...> wrote: >> > >> > Just curious; I have no doubt the Bhagavan knows of what he speaks, and >> > can jump bones with as much gusto as the rest of us; if the enlightened >> > can not think of lust, and we're all heading to enlightenment, as sure as >> > the universe is expanding---does this mean the end: >> > >> > >> > of this... >> > >> > >> > http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/renoir/bath/seated-bather.jpg >> > >> > >> > and this: >> > >> > >> > http://www.travelogues.net/india/index_js.htm?page=photos_taj_mahal.htm >> > >> > >> > and this: >> > >> > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpitgIp40GM&feature=related >> > >> > >> > and this: >> > >> > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MsndyW33Q&feature=related >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: John <jr_esq@...> >> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> > Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:58:38 PM >> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust? >> > >> > >> > >> > Shri Bhagavan explains. >> > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WnjTclRBnI&feature=related >> > >> > >> > Â >> > >> >> > >
