--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" <steve.sundur@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> > > wrote:
> > > > > He pushed your buttons! He pushed your buttons!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Right, and I pushed yours.
> > > 
> > > Actually, you didn't. But  Barry did. It always strikes me as odd 
> > > that Barry can rarely make a point without some kind of cutting 
> > > remark. Most of the time I don't respond, but occassionally, I 
> > > feel the need to make a reply. Is this what his participation 
> > > has turned into?  
> > 
> > Absolutely. Look at who I'm dealing with. :-)
> > 
> > People who still, 20 or more years later, can't admit 
> > to themselves that they paid thousands of dollars for
> > a bunch of phrases *in English* that they could have
> > gotten -- VERBATIM -- from a $3.95 paperback edition
> > of the Yoga Sutras. That is what the "TM Sidhi program"
> > really IS.
> 
> Taimni's English translation of the suutra what I think number
> 12 in my set is based on, has almost 30 words (articles
> not counted as separate words), whereas my Finnish
> "practical" version of that suutra has only five words.
> 
> The original Sanskrit suutra, which I think is this one:
> 
> sattva-puruSayor atyanta+asaMkiirNayoH pratyaya+avisheSo
> bhogaH para+arthaat sva+artha-saMyamaat puruSa-jñaanam.
> 
> ... has something like 14 words, counting the components
> of compound words as individual words.

Whatever. I just remember being on a course in Switzerland,
having paid several thousand dollars for it, being taught 
my TM-Sidhis by a 20-dollar cassette recorder hooked up
to a series of 2 dollar earphones, and walking upstairs, 
to find that everything I had just been taught was there
in the $3.95 paperback of the Yoga Sutras I'd brought with
me. Only a couple of words were in any way different.

At that point I laughed out loud, because I realized I'd
been had. I realized that even though I "flew" the first
day. The "flying" was from my point of view nothing more
than a tiny burst of kundalini parsed through a bunch of
suggestions and moodmaking. I never felt it to be any more
than that, or any more "enlightening" or valuable than that.

So shoot me. You can have a different opinion of the TM
Sidhis if you'd like. Some people seem to have really
gotten off on them. Then again, some people get off on
Lady Gaga and on Bad Writing. There is simply no account-
ing for bad taste and low standards. :-)

But don't ask me to pretend that they are any big deal,
or that they are anything other than a scam that worked
so well that thousands of people and hundreds of thousands
of dollars and 35 years later, people are *still* unable
to describe what they paid thousands of dollars for 
accurately. They're still hiding behind "what we learn
in private we keep private." In my honest opinion, they
are doing this to keep other people who *didn't* pay
thousands of dollars for four bucks' worth of English
from realizing that they did, and thus considering them
the doofuses they were.

Me, I'm comfortable with having been a doofus. I realized
it the first day, and was able to laugh at myself then.
I still am today. 


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