Dear Jason, Compare the rhetoric of this last post of yours with the two previous ones.
This disturbs me. If you were able to express yourself like you have in this last post, why did you Mr Hyde yourself in those first two? In the non-technical sense (literary) sense of the word, this seems schizophrenic. Or elseI must withhold, given what you say here, this other interpretation it is classic Vaj. So, then, you only meant to insult whynotnow and Amsterdam. This seems peculiar to me, since it is unusual for someone to take a violently negative position about two persons who are in conflict. The tendency is to assume you are for one or the other. Evidently in this case, that is not true. I will, out of deference to your good will in this, leave that aside, then, except to say that whatever are the merits of whynotnow's claim to be enlightened, he writes with passion and sincerity, and in this particular case, he is hitting his mark. For your judgment of him to stick, you should have found something else to quote, as you lampoon yourself by not recognizing the appositeness of his little dialogue. I must suppose that the adjudication of Big Sur did not bother you in the least, then, even as he was commenting favourably on whynotnow's little dialogue. As for myself, you have called me a fucking asshole, a pseudo-enlightened nutball [like that, Sal?] with verbal diarrhea, with a mouth of a high speed computer and the intuition of a snail. So, then, I must assume a person is an asshole for not giving out their personal e-mail address to strangers, that is, strangers who ask for this information, with the intention to send e-mails to oneself. It seems to me, Jason, there are quite a few fucking assholes out there who would sympathize with me (especially given the circumstances: someone who lied about me, and published that lie to the world); more than this, most everyone would have been surprised had I acceded to Vaj's request. You are going to have to deal with this fact. "Pseudo-enlightened nutball": This will not hold, dear Jason baby: I have disavowed my enlightenmentNo: I refuse to even address this issue. To call me a pseudo-enlightened nutball does not get at the truth of my experience, not any of my long posts about my enlightenment. In saying this you avoid dealing with the complexity of the reality of my purported enlightenment. It is nil ad rem. "Verbal diarrhea": well, I suppose a case can be made for saying that the value of a given post at FFL lies in the eye of the beholder. There are others here at FFLa few anyway: and some of them seem reasonably sophisticated and intelligentwho do not share this view of meat least not to make all that I write rendered into fecal material. I think there is substance in what I say; but, Jason, if you can ferret out some examples of "verbal diarrhea" I will be happy to go under the knife. "Intuition of a snail": this is interesting, because this I consider the most developed part of meand I have felt this to be the case since I was even a baby, when I started having my own thoughts. Again, I would like you to presentjust for *my sake*examples of my failure of intuition. (Assuming that you are not some biologist who has studied the intelligence of snailsand you mean this as a complimentin that case it would another instance of having misinterpreted you.) I shall be interested, Jason, to really pin down what made you go off in those two posts. You were out of control there. And you seemed to be venting a lot of ragefalse, artificial, in my book. But I could hardly not answer you the way I did, given my understanding of what was going on in you in those two posts. Whynotnow seems a normal and civilized and intelligent human being, regardless of whatever he claims to have attained in terms of a particular state of consciousness. I am very interested in the whole matter of enlightenmentand I have posted extensively about this, too. What is it about whynotnow, specifically, which constitutes, for you, the disqualification for him saying that he is enlightened? Now don't misunderstand me: I do not believe enlightenment to be a normal state of consciousness. That said, I find myself more or less ignoring whynotnow's references to his enlightenment, and taking him as he seems in his posts. And I think him a gentle, wise, sane, and quick-witted person. I think I have answered your question about your preceding post being "manufactured by a perverse charity". I interpreted that postI will return to it now after posting thisto be a perfect counter-response to what has been said to Barry and Vaj. Therefore you must have been referring to the two persons who were quoted in that post: Big Sur Commerce and whynotnow. Evidently you were not. Are you known to have extreme fluctuations of mood, Jason? Because, as I have said here, this last post of yours in comparison to your two previous posts, it is like you are a different person. Well, at least you have got me being my polite and gracious Canadian self. Robin Fucking asshole, He just wants to send you a private message. So have a chat with him in private. So, now you fuck with the Pope, do you? A pseudo-enlightened nutball like you with verbal diarrhea you seem to have a mouth of a high speed computer and the intuition of a snail. What do you mean the preceding post was manufactured by a perverse charity? What I meant is Jim and Barry are made for each other. One is pseudo-enlightened and the other is a pseudo-critic who stripteases on internet forums. >From Maharishi to Constantine you have come a pretty long way. Atleast give a clear answer why you refuse a private message from Vajra boy. From: maskedzebra <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 1:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife Jason, baby: Are you a hired gun? And why the silence all this timeâ"coming in now when the shooting has more or less stopped. Your posts have a sense of immediacy about them; I am surprised you kept your gun in your holster all this time. I would only say one thing: the extremity of your anger on behalf of Barry and Vaj is a substitute for anything sincere you might really have to say. So the violence and the abuse is to make up for the fact that, when it comes down to it, Jason baby, *you have nothing to say*. What the fuck is your point? When you attack someone, you must realize, that in order to be taken seriously, we must feel the sincerity behind your passion. This post, and the one preceding it, are entirely manufactured out of a perverse charity on behalf of two persons who themselves have nothing more to say. What is left to say? Something coming from some anonymous assassinâ"someone as far as I know, who hasn't posted on FFL during all the time that these discussions have gone on. Do you know Vaj and/or Barry, Jedi Spock? Look at your first two sentences: the violence of your words makes it seem as if my reluctance to enter into a private offline conversation with a poster I do not know personally is somehow the hard and indefensible response of someone who hates small children and dogs. I'm afraid you're going to have to do better than this, Jason, my boy. I look forward to your committing yourself to the disclosure of what possibly could be behind these two postsâ"other than acting as a surrogate someone else (who has been silenced). So, bring it on, Jason; I'd like to find out there was some truth in what you have said here. So far, though, you have made a convincing case that you are someone contriving to use whatever bitterness and anger is in you in the cause of something which, intrinsically, has nothing to with the very bitterness and anger you bring to these posts. And where does the poor Pope come into this? Jason, get a grip, buddy. Oh. And by the way: some name-calling bathroom graffiti will not take the place of substance.â"I refer to your next post in response to this one. You are full of shit, Jason, until you can prove otherwise. Now, tell me precisely what this is aboutâ"if, that is, it is not about acting as proxy for your two acquaintances? That said, you have a nice day now, OK? This might be fun. What do you say, Jason? Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason <jedi_spock@...> wrote: > >  > What do you mean the preceding post was > manufactured by a perverse charity? > What I meant is Jim and Barry are made for each > other. One is pseudo-enlightened and the other is > a pseudo-critic who stripteases on internet > forums. > > From Maharishi to Constantine you have come a > pretty long way. Atleast give a clear answer why > you refuse a private message from Vajra boy. >  >  >  > From: maskedzebra <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 1:24 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife > > >  >  >  >  > Jason, baby: > > Are you a hired gun? And why the silence all this timeâ"coming in now when > the shooting has more or less stopped. > > Your posts have a sense of immediacy about them; I am surprised you kept your > gun in your holster all this time. > > I would only say one thing: the extremity of your anger on behalf of Barry > and Vaj is a substitute for anything sincere you might really have to say. > > So the violence and the abuse is to make up for the fact that, when it comes > down to it, Jason baby, *you have nothing to say*. > > What the fuck is your point? When you attack someone, you must realize, that > in order to be taken seriously, we must feel the sincerity behind your > passion. > > This post, and the one preceding it, are entirely manufactured out of a > perverse charity on behalf of two persons who themselves have nothing more to > say. > > What is left to say? Something coming from some anonymous assassinâ"someone > as far as I know, who hasn't posted on FFL during all the time that these > discussions have gone on. > > Do you know Vaj and/or Barry, Jedi Spock? > > Look at your first two sentences: the violence of your words makes it seem as > if my reluctance to enter into a private offline conversation with a poster I > do not know personally is somehow the hard and indefensible response of > someone who hates small children and dogs. > > I'm afraid you're going to have to do better than this, Jason, my boy. > > I look forward to your committing yourself to the disclosure of what possibly > could be behind these two postsâ"other than acting as a surrogate someone > else (who has been silenced). > > So, bring it on, Jason; I'd like to find out there was some truth in what you > have said here. > > So far, though, you have made a convincing case that you are someone > contriving to use whatever bitterness and anger is in you in the cause of > something which, intrinsically, has nothing to with the very bitterness and > anger you bring to these posts. > > And where does the poor Pope come into this? > > Jason, get a grip, buddy. > > Oh. And by the way: some name-calling bathroom graffiti will not take the > place of substance.â"I refer to your next post in response to this one. > > You are full of shit, Jason, until you can prove otherwise. > > Now, tell me precisely what this is aboutâ"if, that is, it is not about > acting as proxy for your two acquaintances? > > That said, you have a nice day now, OK? > > This might be fun. What do you say, Jason? > > Robin > > Fucking asshole, He just wants to send you a > private message. So have a chat with him in > private. > So, now you fuck with the Pope, do you? A > pseudo-enlightened nutball like you with verbal > diarrhea you seem to have a mouth of a high speed > computer and the intuition of a snail. >
