You write as if I had challenged you in some way and you are having to refute 
me. Which is rather odd, since all I did was post something from the MSAE Web 
site about its recent achievements (2010-11 only). I think your son did 
brilliantly at golf. Who could deny it? Certainly not me. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Feste,
> 
> You forgot to list my son's winning of the Iowa State Golf championship, and 
> the golf team's championship win the next year.  
> 
> Don't think for a moment that MSAE's great results, and I admit, they're 
> great are from them being meditators.
> 
> The mundane explanation is better:  when we were told to come to FF to save 
> the world from nuclear war, who came?  Only those who were already successful 
> enough in real life to have the money to take the risk of moving to FF.  The 
> population in FF is heavily skewed thereby and of course the children of 
> those folks would be expected to be smarter, healthier, better home life, 
> etc.  
> 
> My son's golf success came from him practicing far more than any other person 
> in the state.  For HOURS he'd stand in one spot and just do his moves in very 
> slow motion.  He golfed in the snow, in the dark, in the rain.  He put in the 
> time, he paid the dues, but the other kids from the other schools' golf teams 
> out there had their highly motivated kids also who gave my son a strong 
> challenge....and they didn't have any magic mantras helping their golf game.
> 
> If you doubt this, go ahead and try to learn golf and break par in six months 
> flat like he did at the age of 14.  Experiment and get back to us.  See if 
> you too have to put in 10,000 hours to reach excellence, or if you can do 
> this in half the time by meditating more.  I'll wait.  
> 
> Same deal with all the MSAE results -- heavily skewed by dint of starting 
> with a bunch of kids that had been pre-filtered.
> 
> Edg
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > On Dec 7, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
> > > 
> > > > What was I thinking? I mean, right there in the first lecture, the  
> > > > guy giving it was obviously not a golden child striding the world  
> > > > and solving problems everywhere. He was a wimp, reading out of the  
> > > > Science of Being and the Art of Living, and an obvious lover of  
> > > > cucumber sandwiches. Yeah, whoa, what a glorious spiritual leader  
> > > > this guy was. Gunna take me to the promise land.
> > > >
> > > > I bought it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Edg I thought of you when I watched David Wants to Fly for the first  
> > > time and they showed the kids at the Marshy School of the Age of  
> > > Enlightenment singing some sing-song SCI lullaby. I had to wonder  
> > > your reaction when you saw it - or was that something (this  
> > > brainwashing of the innocents) that you were already well aware of?
> > >
> > 
> > MSAE Achievements from 2010 - 2011 School Year
> > 
> > 1 National Merit Scholar
> > 
> > Eastern Iowa Science and Engineering Fair (EISEF) 40 Top Awards
> > 
> > State Science and Technology Fair of Iowa, 14 Top awards:
> > 
> >     Overall Senior High Team Reserve Champions and Senior High 
> > Semi-Finalists
> >     3 First Place Awards
> >     4 Second Place awards
> >     3 Third Place Awards
> >     Iowa Energy Center award
> >     Intel Excellence in Computer Science Award
> > 
> > Top National and International Science Awards:
> > 
> >     Water Environment Federation: U.S. Stokholm Junior Prize
> >     4th Place International Intel Science and Engineering Fair
> >     Gold and Bronze Medals at International Sustainable World Energy 
> > Engineering Environment Project Olympiad
> > 
> > Iowa Poetry Association: Honorable Mention, published work in Lyric Iowa 
> > 2011
> > 
> > Iowa Destination ImagiNation Competition: Five First Place Awards
> > 
> > Global Destination Imagination Competition, creative problem solving 
> > competition: Fourth and Fifth Place
> > 
> > Southeast Iowa Super Conference Art Competition: Nine Top Awards, “Best 
> > of Show"
> > 
> > Congressional Art Competition: Honorable Mention
> > 
> > Tennis Class 1-A Runner-up State Champion
> >
>


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