--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" <anartaxius@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > <anartaxius@> wrote: <snip> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: <snip> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardatrwilliamsdotus" > > > > <richard@> wrote: <snip> > > > Do you prefer being awakened to not being having everything just happen is > > relaxing, but sometimes I wonder how much creativity and inventiveness > > would then occur. Or does the creativity just happen too? > > The syntax of the above sentence is a bit confusing but: > > As far as I can tell creativity remains the same. Everything is the same. > That is what the term 'infinite correlation' means. Life is more relaxed, one > does not incessantly dream on things to come, but there are always situation > where one has to think ahead and do some planning. A clear awakening is > really a beginning, life starts over because the ideas one thought about life > and the world etc., are swept away, their reality was bogus, the connexion > between thought and experience is seen from a different perspective. It is a > paradoxical shift because life just goes on as it had. One has thoughts, but > they are not intense, focused or controlling. I suppose this is what 'bliss' > is, a sort of pervasive evenness, and not much sense of inner versus outer > being essentially different. But if you bump your head on the corner of a > cupboard door, it still hurts like hell. Immortality is not a personal > feature of existence. > > I do think that those driven by desires who are also creative may produce > more because what they think is much more important to them than to someone > whose personal sense of importance and worth dissolves into the ocean of > being. One cannot get on a path of enlightenment without first not being > enlightened, and that is the normal state most of us have coming into this > life; its one of the things that makes life interesting, trying to figure out > what is going on. > > Ideology blunts creativity because it restricts its flow along specific > lines, creative people always have ideas that transcend those restrictions. > Along that creative channel, they are free, but the rest of their life might > be a total mess. > > Perhaps what we desire is that sense freedom for every aspect of our life. We > will not all become like Mozart or Einstein, but will naturally find our > strengths and play to those, but no longer be disturbed that we cannot do > everything on the personal level to perfection. Perfection is seeing and > intuitively understanding how the world of our experience, inner and outer, > fits together, how everything is connected and is essentially the same. > Thanks for the reply. You hit on exactly what has been of concern to me lately - that being awakened might lead to just "being" and a reduction in action and creativity and inventiveness because thoughts quiet down and the chatter about self and doing and accomplishing fades. I guess I wondered where the impetus to act then comes from. I assume it comes from the environment and from where it always came from anyway. The difference is that the assumption of being the cause and the motivator of those thoughts and actions is gone, but everything continues on without that misconception of being the doer.
The thing that triggered this quesiton was seeing on YouTube and BatGap some interviews with apaprently awakened people who really seem not to plan much ahead Instead, they saya that they answer questions as they come up, truly taking it as. it comes. The "being in control" and wanting to "manage things" and "learn about and discuss ideas" part of me got annoyed with that. Thanks, again.
