No. I have a better idea, Vaj. Find one person at FFL whom you trust, and let them see the video. Then that person can testify to the truth that i am lying when i say that you are lying. Does this seem reasonable? I would certainly have you post it here or elsewhere; but I am concerned*theoretically*about persons who have gone on with their lives, have had children, and do not wish to be associated with myself. So out of respect for themI have told you about this principle before VajI would ask you simply to share this video with some poster here at FFL. How about Curtis? With all our intense disagreements, I know he is a person of honour and would not countenance turning himself into a false witness. So, if you have access to this tape*or anything which could verify the truth of what you have said*give Curtis this evidence, and then he can simply say: "I have seen the tape. Essentially what Vaj says is true, Robin."
That will be enough for me, Vaj. How 'bout it? In anticipation of the resolution of this controversy, I am your faithful friend Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: > > > On Dec 19, 2011, at 3:05 PM, maskedzebra wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > Vaj: What's amazing to me is to have witnessed the machinations of > > a so-called "enlightened man" in 1983 and to find no discernible > > difference between 1983 and 2011 - except I have a better > > understanding now of mental illness, back then it was just the > > intuition that 'something's not right here'. Of course once > > everyone saw the videos of "the enlightened man" beating one of his > > students, on official video, on the stage - that was the last > > straw. The emperor of ice cream melted. > > > > Robin: I know of no such video. I remember no such incident. Could > > you please, for the sake of my own much needed further humiliation, > > provide some source for this claim of yours, Vaj? Until or unless > > you do, I shall go on the record as denying that such a tape > > exists, that such a incident happened. That is, to say, I am > > calling you a liar. > > > > "Of course once everyone saw the videos of 'the enlightened man' > > beating one of his students, on official video, on the stage"What > > about the persons who witnessed this live, Vaj? They would be even > > more disturbed. No, Vaj: you are making something up again. I am > > prepared to face my past and all that I have done. But this, this > > is a lie. > > > > And given that I am denying this, you can imagine what good it > > would do me to be confronted by something I did which I do not > > remember doing and which I have officially said I didn't do on this > > forum. I think you have a serious moral responsibility to make > > available to me the evidence of this claim of yours, Vaj. So please > > follow through on this. > > > Maybe you were dissociating? > > Should I post it here or on YouTube? >