--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > Xeno, I am in favor of 'sin' as it is delineated in the resolution, that is > my experience and I see that Paramahansa Yogananda has it right. > > Note that God is run out as the resolution reads. Sit and meditate more on > the soul and free-will with this. However, I would urge you to not split > over the soul and free-will but concur with the resolution on sin for what it > is. Don't let theisms withhold your support on the sin resolution. > As you may feel more in to this, I look to your support of the FFL resolution > on sin. > With Best Regards, > -Buck in FF > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" <anartaxius@> > wrote: > > > > Buck, there is disagreement here on the following terms. God, free-will, > > soul. Best of luck! > > > > Praying is like a rocking chair - it'll give you something to do, but it > > won't get you anywhere. - Gypsy Rose Lee > >
Well, Gypsie Rose evidently never heard of transcending meditations. Without spiritual experience what could we expect? Of course a meditation when well done is its own prayer that brings all and only more clearly the grace of the science of Ved (Unified Field) in a physiology. Thus will I lift my hands in prayer! -Buck in FF > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > Dear FFL Owner, Moderators and Members in good standing; > > > > > > For a sake of a more unified discussion here on FairfieldLife@yahoo I > > > wish to make a motion that we adopt a resolution of the definition of > > > 'sin' as is proffered by Paramahansa Yogananda, "That here at FFL hence > > > forth 'sin' shall be known spiritually, as that which compromises > > > self-mastery. That sin has its automatic negative effect to the degree > > > of the influence of delusion with in it -involving no condemnation of an > > > irate God. Man's free-will actions simply harmonize and strengthen the > > > expressed essence of his soul perfection or weaken and degrade it into > > > mortal enslavement." > > > -Buck in FF > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet save a trembling sinner, Unified Field > > > > > Whose hope still hov'ring round Thy word > > > > > Would light on some sweet promise there, > > > > > Some sure support of Nature against despair. > > > > > > > > > > > > My crimes, though great, cannot surpass > > > > > > The pow'r and glory of Thy grace; > > > > > > Great Unifying Field, Thy nature hath no bound; > > > > > > So let Thy pard'ning love be found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Show pity, O Unified Field, forgive; > > > > > > > Let a repenting rebel live. > > > > > > > Are not Thy mercies large and free? > > > > > > > May not a sinner trust in Thee?� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > > > > > > <anartaxius@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O Integrity, there are no sins. > > > > > > > > Form or formless matters not. > > > > > > > > Presence always, > > > > > > > > Especial location no necessity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " 'Sin' requires a complex definition. It is not a transgression > > > > against an arbitrary code of behavior decreed by a whimsical God. The > > > > Unified Field made human a spiritual being, a soul endowed with an > > > > individualization of its own nature. It gives to the soul, evolved > > > > from its own Self, the instruments of a body and a mind with which to > > > > perceive and interact with the objects of a manifested universe. > > > > > > > > If man lives in perfect harmony with the machinations of these > > > > principles, he remains a spiritual being in charge of his body and > > > > mind. Sin is that which compromises that perfect self-mastery. It has > > > > its automatic negative effect to the degree of the influence of > > > > delusion with in it -involving no condemnation of an irate God. Man's > > > > free-will actions simply harmonize and strengthen the expressed essence > > > > of his soul perfection or weaken and degrade it into mortal > > > > enslavement." > > > > > > > > Excerpt -Discourse 27 > > > > Yogananda's > > > > The Second Coming of Christ > > > > The Resurrection of Christ Within You > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "O Unified Field, pardon me three sins. > > > > > > > > > I have in contemplation clothed in form > > > > > > > > > Thee who art formless. > > > > > > > > > I have described [in words] Thee who art ineffable. > > > > > > > > > And in visiting temples I have ignored > > > > > > > > > Thy omnipresence." > > > > > > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik" > > > > > > > > > <futur.musik@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Judy, you wrote, "You do understand that Robin does not > > > > > > > > > > claim to be enlightened and is not seeking enlightenment, > > > > > > > > > > that he thinks it's a snare and a delusion, that he > > > > > > > > > > believes he was enlightened decades ago and has made a huge > > > > > > > > > > effort since then to "de-enlighten" himself." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After reading a lot of what Robin writes about > > > > > > > > > > enlightenment and his experience being enlightened, he says > > > > > > > > > > he was witnessing the whole time. That stuck out when I > > > > > > > > > > read it. Enlightenment as it grows, and it always grows if > > > > > > > > > > it is real, eats up and integrates witnessing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a period following waking up or the stabilizing of > > > > > > > > > > Self Realization, where witnessing everything, seeing the > > > > > > > > > > frictionless flow of life and your silent place in it, > > > > > > > > > > dominates perception. Freedom! Absence of fear! A great > > > > > > > > > > influx of cosmic energy as the Atman or Soul becomes a > > > > > > > > > > permanent flame within and shines forth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want to stay there for awhile, then others can see > > > > > > > > > > your light and respond to it. I'll not go much further into > > > > > > > > > > Robin's experience but I think this is where he was during > > > > > > > > > > his leading of an alternative spiritual movement. It was > > > > > > > > > > 100% genuine regarding the Soul carrying out its function > > > > > > > > > > of expansion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As the Atman continues to shine forth, extending one's > > > > > > > > > > boundaries, making them less distinct, melding one's > > > > > > > > > > identity with that of the Cosmos, the unity between us and > > > > > > > > > > others and everything else in our experience becomes more > > > > > > > > > > obvious. As the soul continues to radiate outward from > > > > > > > > > > deeper and deeper within us, that cosmic energy we become > > > > > > > > > > permeates everything. Everything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At that point, the lights seem to go out! Holy shit, what > > > > > > > > > > happened? The light we (the personal and Impersonal self) > > > > > > > > > > are radiating becomes so pervasive, inside and out, that > > > > > > > > > > life is at once transformed, becoming progressively more > > > > > > > > > > interesting, captivating and beautiful, while remaining > > > > > > > > > > exactly as it was before. So we no longer see the contrast > > > > > > > > > > between the light that we are, and the light now everywhere > > > > > > > > > > else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are no longer witnessing, or perhaps the witness has > > > > > > > > > > come out to play. There is no longer the longing for *peak* > > > > > > > > > > experiences that we used to want, but instead, it is *all* > > > > > > > > > > very much better.:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In order to witness, there has to be something distinct > > > > > > > > > > from something else. There has to be the unfettered ;-) > > > > > > > > > > bliss of the soul, the personal Being, distinct from > > > > > > > > > > everything else, and we are residing in Being, looking out > > > > > > > > > > as it were on everything else. People describe witnessing > > > > > > > > > > as being so free! so weightless almost, just in a big cloud > > > > > > > > > > of bliss, mind almost empty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is an awesome feeling, but not a complete one. Even the > > > > > > > > > > witness has to be transcended in order to for enlightenment > > > > > > > > > > to continue, and continue it will. There is no way to put > > > > > > > > > > the soul back to sleep once it wakes up, and one Day of > > > > > > > > > > Enlightenment lasts a very, very, very long time! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >