--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@...> wrote: > > Susan, if I could comment on a few of your details: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > Dear Awoel, > > > > Since you are new here, in brief: Vaj and Robin have had > > a back and forth about Robin's long past actions for many > > months now, maybe over a year. > > Robin's been here almost exactly seven months, since mid-June. > > > Vaj says he knew of people involved with Robin and was himself > > around in Ffld when Robin was doing his WTS thing. > > Not just in FF but also at Robin and his followers' hangout > at Sunnyside in Canada; and with a delegation of several > other people who visited Robin in DC as well. On that > occasion, Vaj claims to have demonstrated to the others to > their complete satisfaction, via some special techniques > which he declines to disclose, that Robin was not > enlightened. Robin acknowledges the visit but says Vaj was > not with the delegation and never visited him. > > > Vaj feels Robin was unstable at the time and behaved "badly" > > towards the people who chose to follow his lead. He says he > > saw this for himself > > Vaj has claimed to have been one of Robin's "confrontees." > > > and I think he had friends either involved with Robin or > > trying to help others who had been sucked in get out. > > > > Robin believes Vaj was not there in Ffld or at any of his > > appearances and did not see him or know him at that time. > > Not sure Robin ever said Vaj hadn't been in FF, but I could > be wrong. Robin does deny Vaj ever attended one of his > seminars and indeed that Vaj ever saw him "in the flesh." > Don't know how Robin could know this last if Vaj was in > Fairfield at the time; Robin was out and about, and Vaj > could well have seen him from a distance, or even have > attended one of the court hearings. I assume Robin meant > something more like "face to face." But he'd have to > clarify that himself. > > > Vaj mentions incidents and events, Robin says he could not > > have been there and that he did not behave as badly as Vaj > > says. > > Vaj has been very careful to avoid providing specifics that > might be checked out. All the little tidbits he doles out, > he could have found out from someone else who had firsthand > knowledge. > > The picture Vaj paints is fragmented. It sounds to me as if > he has a little list of notes and drops one or two into his > posts from time to time. > > (There's a wonderful line in Gilbert and Sullivan's Mikado > in which Poo-Bah, who has been accused of making stuff up, > defends himself by referring to the made-up items as "merely corroborative > detail, intended to give artistic > verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing > narrative." At this, Pitti-Sing exclaims in disgust: > "Corroborative detail indeed! Corroborative fiddlestick!") > > Anyway, Robin's been put in the position of having to prove > a negative, which he can't possibly do without details from > Vaj. So it's essentially been a standoff, one Vaj has > lovingly nurtured. > > It might also be noted that Vaj has been preoccupied with > Robin on FFL literally for *years*. It's clearly some kind > of personal vendetta on Vaj's part, but Vaj refuses to > disclose the basis for it. > > <snip> > > The thing is, Robin has described in detail his change of > > belief system and how he gave up his enlightenment somehow > > and converted to Catholicism. > > As I understand it from his posts, he converted to > Catholicism first, then after some time as a practicing > Catholic decided Catholicism was incompatible with the > entire spiritual context of enlightenment and that > enlightenment was fundamentally a deception. So he began to > work on casting off the enlightenment. At some point after > that he gave up on Catholicism too. (I believe that's the > sequence, but I don't know the time frame.) A lot of folks > here appear to have missed that last step, but he's been > quite explicit about it. >
Thanks for the clarity on these points. Your memory is super, and I had missed some of the info entirely since I did not read all the relevant posts. I did miss that Robin is no longer a practicing Catholic.
