On Feb 15, 2012, at 9:00 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" <anartaxius@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> >
> > No attachment to thoughts as they arise, persist and then
> > disappear is what eventually dissipates the samskaras.
> > Retreating into silence just causes addiction to the state
> > of calm, and addiction to meditation techniques.
>
> This is a good point Vaj. I was not suggesting that one
> retreat into silence. A lot of meditators get addicted to
> this, not that meditating a lot is bad, but as an excuse
> to avoid experiencing 'bad' things. The silence I was
> mentioning should still be there even if you are being
> crushed under the wheels of a dump truck.

Although we are big on asking for objective proof
of subjective claims here on FFL, I for one wish
to say that I hope neither of your spiritual paths
requires you to take the dump truck silence test
anytime soon. :-)

Of course the ultimate "silence test" has to be the one they tested Buddhist yogis with: a blast of very loud sound at the upper threshold of human tolerance.

http://www.shambhalasun.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=1611

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